A police officer dragged Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill out of his car and then forced him face first on to the ground during a traffic stop

  • TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I’m not going to defend Hill’s actions as correct, but if someone is an asshole do the police get to do anything they want?

    Hard to justify him getting pulled onto the ground, knelt on, and handcuffed.

    If he didn’t want to open the window (and I’ve already heard everything about how maybe they couldn’t see inside so it was a safety hazard - fine) - doesn’t opening the door solve the entire problem? The door was open. Shouldn’t that have been all the escalation of this situation that was required?

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      9 days ago

      A cop having to open the door is the point where you’re getting out from behind the wheel of the car you wouldn’t shut off.

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        9 days ago

        Thought exercise: where is the line of justifiable behavior? If they shot him is that justified? If not, then there must be a line somewhere.

        But I can tell you it’s not a subjective thing, and the courts have ruled on things like this. Everyone has rights, even “Lil assholes” like Hill. I don’t care for him at all as a person. He might be a shitty guy, but everyone gets the same rights.

        • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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          9 days ago

          The line has always been simple. If you feel you’re in the right, comply then, file charges later. Also, don’t be a dumbass. If you get pulled over for wreckers driving and speeding, don’t leave your loud ass car running, the window up, refuse to roll it down, refuse to open the door, and be a dick. If you act like you’re being dangerous, you’re going to be treated like you could be dangerous.

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            9 days ago

            the window up, refuse to roll it down, refuse to open the door, and be a dick.

            How did the cops get Hill out of the car then if he refused to roll down the windows or open the door? Hill was face down on the ground 62 second into the video, how did the cops get him to the ground so fast with the windows closed and doors locked?

            • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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              9 days ago

              Are you commenting without even watching the video first? The door wasn’t locked and the cop used the handle and opened it himself…

              • David_Eight@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                Did you watch it lol? Hill did in fact roll the window down and the door was locked when the officer on the left attempted to open the door. So either the Hill complied and unlocked it himself or the cop on the right reached in (the open window) and opened the door. If it’s the former, then Hill complied with every command he was given lol.

                • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  9 days ago

                  Cop opens the door from the outside (while the window is cracked maybe 2" open) at 1:08 in the video. You got any other bullshit to make up?

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                    8 days ago

                    At 1:03 the first cop attempts to open the door and it’s locked, at 1:08 door it is open. What happened in that 5 seconds?

                    It doesn’t matter how open the window is or isn’t, legally Hill doesn’t have to leave the window open after handing over his paperwork. Which brings up the question of why was he put in handcuffs in the first place? Can you explain that for me?