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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Canada now has a land border with Denmark. Have fun with that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Small text explains that exclaves are excluded, otherwise Brazil also has a land border with France.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Had to think about this but I don't think an island is considered an exclave.

The reason for this is because it is entirely surrounded by water, not another piece of land. Islands are not usually considered to be exclaves.

https://homework.study.com/explanation/is-hawaii-an-exclave.html it's paywalled but the answer came through on google.

The island is right beside both Canadian and Denmark (greenland) land, so it's not exactly isolated or surrounded by either.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Greenland might count as an exclave itself, though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... Not if islands are not.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh shit, yeah, I forget it's considered an island.

I see Indonesia borders Papua on that map, and that's the same situation. Plus, Greenland isn't treated separately from Denmark, which would be the other possibility.

Maybe they don't have data on it? /s

[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I'm wrong, ignore the rest of my comment. Leaving it around for the world to see my shame.

An enclave is one country's land that's completely surrounded by another country's land.

The land border between Canada and Denmark is on an island, and each country "owns" half the island. There's no enclave involved here.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oops, my bad.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

It's totally arbitrary for the purposes of making the map look better. Otherwise Indonesia wouldn't be on the continent.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 2 months ago

Also, Denmark and Sweden, via the Øresund Bridge

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

The vikings were far more impressive the last time.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Canadians: Look how they massacred my boy

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Australia really didn't deserve this. She could have been in the tip of Asia where Indonesia is. Which reminds me why is Indonesia in the continent?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Where's our border with Denmark?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like how organized North and Central America are

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

First Nations peoples will remember this

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I realize it could be a lot harder to organize but I'd be interested in a version of this where the size of the country corresponds to the number of countries it touches. In this version seems like we get some weird shapes/sizes just to fit everything into a circle.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are several seas here: Red, Mediterranean, Black and Caspian. The Arctic and Antarctic Oceans are not represented, that'll minimize the perimeters of Canada and Russia.

Overall, this is a very intriguing visualization of the political world. Fascinating stuff. Which I'm not sure I fully understand, don't get what "topology" refers to, but to me it evokes an image highlighting different altitudes, as with mountains, valleys and coastlines.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

If altitude is portrayed I don't see it. I think this map is purely to show borders/adjacency without consideration of size and only vague consideration of location. Size kinda sorta correlates with the number of adjacent countries but also seems a bit arbitrary.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why is India so small on the map? I am confused by the size choices here. Is it based on neighboring nations?

Edit: ya know, I really should'a read the text.

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is wrong, argentina also borders bolivia and Paraguay doesn't border chile

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

also Brazil borders France

[–] Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 months ago

Would count as en exclave and the map states they ignore those, because let's be honest they'd really make this difficult.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

This could actually be really handy if you want to do a road trip and spend as much time in customs as humanly possible.

[–] ninth_plane@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I wonder what it would look like with embassies included

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't get the bit about Brunei and Indonesia being linked to afro-eurasia

[–] runlikellama@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Malaysia has a part on the mainland and also on an island (which it shares with Brunei and Indonesia I believe)

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh is it they should be on the outskirts of the map otherwise, as they're oceanic?

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

being linked to afro-eurasia

Why not? Kalimantan is part of (South East) Asia.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

The biggest land border France has is with Brazil.

[–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

This is like the UK Metro map of the world.

Now do one of Middle Ages Europe