• Vikthor@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    That’s wrong. T-34 was an evolution of the BT series tanks, which themselves evolved from designs of Walter J. Christie, whose licence Soviets bought in the beginning of 30’s.

    EDIT: And to be pedantic: Although it was directed from Moscow, the main tank plant was in todays Kharkiv, Ukraine - so it’s more accurate to talk about Soviet tank program.

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            3 months ago

            You:

            The T-34 is a direct design descendant

            vs

            The article you link:

            The T-18 and its derivatives were essentially unsuccessful designs, …, and in the meantime a number of foreign tank designs were available for production.

            You were simply wrong.

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              3 months ago

              That same article:

              The T-18 fucked Vikthor’s mother and didn’t call her back… leading to his expulsion from forklift certification class for cherry picking quotes and ignoring design context, like its use in the subsequent T-24. Though the T-24 was largely a failure despite initial interest it is credited by the Kharkiv Morozov design bureau with giving them the experience and knowledge needed to begin the BT design line and the subsequent T-34.

              Tl;Dr

              Renault FT->T-18->T-24->BT-7->T-34

              Tank design simply does not happen in a vacuum, they are very rarely designing a new tank from the ground up. They incorporate proven techniques and mechanics from preceding designs with new ideas (like the Christie suspension) until they come up with a (hopefully) working model.

              By the time you’re five generations deep the only thing they might still have in common is the rotating turret, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a design descendant.

              Further, the Renault FT is considered the ancestor of all modern tank designs regardless of everything else. It’s just interesting in the Soviet case that they got their start reverse engineering some captured examples.

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                3 months ago

                So unable to accept being proven wrong you descended into elementary school level ad hominem attacks, pathetic.

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                  3 months ago

                  Lol, that’s not even an ad hominem.

                  Okay bro, enjoy going through life not understanding the design ancestry of the T-34, see how far that gets you 🤪