Men - you are thin therefore we don’t make pants long enough for you
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Solve this annoying issue by becoming fat and wearing shorts all the time.
The opposite issue for me: Big ass, big thighs, short legs.
I've given up and now I tend to just buy women's pants.
That is better than the opposite. You can have your pants hemmed and taken in where required. It is harder to add material.
I feel like people these days don't utilize tailors enough. You can improve a lot of off the rack clothing.
Yeah, I've had that problem. One of the nice things about Reddit was r/tallfashion -- acc had links to stuff with decent waist and inside leg. Have found some women's trousers pretty good for that too.
But women's pants are cut for people that don't have genitals sticking out of their crotches. How do you avoid uncomfortable smashing?
Pick ones with a loose fit haha. There are plenty around.
And the back pockets are always sewn shut on anything not jeans.
Ok, why the fuck are pockets sewn shut at all??? I'm a guy and I see clothes like this too. It pisses me off so much, it was so close to being useful, most of a pocket is already there, why would they just give up?
I think the real reason is so that the pockets dont get snagged or deformed while a product is being transported / stored / displayed prior to being sold.
fake pockets look nice. If you need functional ones, just pop the stitching. Usually, the stitching keeping the pocket closed is very weak compared to normal seams.
+1 for the life hack and restoring some faith in humanity.
This isn't a life hack. Pockets are intentionally sewn shut for the manufacturing and shipping process. You are supposed to open them when you buy them.
Of you open them is it just butt or is there a hidden pocket?
It’s an actual pocket but I didn’t find this out until I was an adult - I thought that’s how they were made for a reason and if I cut the thread, it would make a hole in the pants. Nope, regular pockets just sewn shut for some reason.
I think I was in my 30’s before someone told me the truth. It was a man IIRC lol…but yeah my mom never knew I guess, friends at school, etc, or if they did they didn’t tell me because I guess they never noticed.
You can easily answer this question yourself by looking inside/turning the pants inside out.
Tried this and the lady said she's pressing charges. Thanks for nothing.
Probably for tax purposes.
Things will only have useful size metrics when the buyers want useful size metrics.
Men's pants come with useful size metrics because they're useful and we attach very little meaning to the measurement of men's pants.
Women's pants come with stupid size metrics because we attach a lot of meaning to the measurement of women's pants.
It's the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
When was the last time you measured your waist and then tried on a pair of pants?
Men's clothing has tones of vanity sizing these days.
The cuts of fabric are cut with dies. A layer of fabric is place down and a press presses the cutting die down to cut out the shape. A cheap manufacturer over stacks how many sheets are cut at ones. Top layer is going to be bigger then the bottom layer.
It’s the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
In Germany the packaging indicates the [Edit: ~~diameter~~ half circumference] in millimeters ±2mm tolerance. Because, you know, size matters here.
Half circumference? Why?
(Yeah I zoomed in. It's 52mm, which is fractionally over 2 inches)
The literal translation of what's on the box makes it easier to understand:
Width of the condom when laid flat: 52 mm
It's simply the easiest width measure you can do yourself.
Said someone who's never shopped for men's clothes.
I bought two pairs of jeans the other day, both exactly the same size, both the same style, but just different colors. The blank ones fit, the blue ones do not fit, explain that.
My personal theory is that each pair is manufactured in a different factory, and their tolerances are so ridiculously lacks that they can produce different products the same supposedly identical blueprint.
I bought two pairs of jeans the other day, both exactly the same size, both the same style, but just different colors. The blank ones fit, the blue ones do not fit, explain that.
I’ve experienced the same issue, not just with the waist but also the inseam!
G-Star jeans are notorious for this; same style (eg. 5620s), same fit (eg. Skinny), different colours but different colours: I can fit in the 33, and 32, but the 34 is too small currently (I put in a few kg).
This is very true. Men's pants are tagged with their waist size and will also normally have their leg length on the tag. I've got a fairly big belly so I have a large waist size compared to my height so this is useful.
Having to do the mental mathematics to consider which size I am or having to try on the clothes to get an understanding would be a major pain.
Nah. Mens pants sizes are just as wild and wrong as womens sizes.
Its vanity sizing, everywhere
I struggled to fit in a size 34 a while ago.
Slightly more expensive brand, I fit in 34 just fine. So in my mind I still have a 34" waist.
I do not.
I once bought 2 of exactly the same pants at the same time, after having the same one from a year earlier and liking it that much. They were both different to my original one and different to each other. I had to send the too tight one back and the replacement was different yet again. Seems like people just do not care enough that there is next to no standard.
That is 100% not how mens sizes work.
It's 50% of how men's sizes work
I know this is anecdotal, but I've never had pants size be the same as my waist size, even when I was in good shape.
Then you must have the weirdest waist ever, for a man.
I am able to go out into any store with my current waist size, and get a good-fitting pair virtually every time without even trying it on. Now, I may not like certain styles - I prefer my belt to be at my bellybutton, not halfway down my hips such that any erection can only ever point down - but men’s sizes are remarkably consistent.
All the size 10s in the shop are the same size?
(X) Doubt.
Bullshit! I wear size 34 pants with a belt to keep them on and they are 36.25in around.
Yeah, I wear 33W pants but they measure 36" around the belt loops. This isn't the result of vanity sizing, though - men used to wear pants that were very high-waisted, but as pants got lower over the decades they kept using the "nominal" waist measurement so that men would still know what size to buy, since the circumference around the hips (where most pants are cut today) is about 3" ~~less~~ more than the circumference of what used to be the waist.
Pleats are another useless holdover from the high-waisted era, as they made it easier for pants to expand down over the hips and thighs.
100% men's clothing are vanity sized and it's worked so well men didn't notice.
Woah there, men's pants aren't size 30, that's a worthless measurement. We use the inseam too, so they are the right length and the right width. :p
Ie. 32x32
Unfortunately, that isn’t quite right for guys. Skinny, straight, relaxed…. All these types changes the fit and sizing. I wear one waist size larger for skinny.
Women’s are much worse sizing wise but the difference is that guys jeans generally just look acceptable . When a woman gets jeans that fit her correctly, they can look amazing. I doubt guys ever get compliments on the fit of their jeans.
For women, they could use 6- measurements to standardize it but unfortunately a lot of people fall for vanity sizing and don’t want to accept that they gained weight.
It happens for guys clothing too. If it is a letter based sizing there are huge variations in sizing between clothing companies. For high end brands I wear a large, at Walmart or other box stores, I wear a small.
Yeah, t-shirts absolutely suck. I'm thin, tall, and like to wear my pants lower on my hips, so shirt length is absolutely essential. In most cases, L is an inch or so longer than M, so I get L even though M would fit my chest better. I honestly wish they would just make a size between M and L, like M+, which would be just be a bit longer M (like 2 extra inches).
Sometimes you are different sizes in the same brand. And I don't mean you might need a small shirt and large pants. No. Sometimes, this pair of pants only fit in large, and this pair of pants only fit in medium. Same brand.
Yeah I gave up on jeans and bought a dozen pairs of the exact same pants that fit well, then dyed them.
so how do we buy clothes online?
I often buy from poshmark, and only listing's that include measurements of the garments.