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The group’s president, Kevin D. Roberts, made the comments in an interview on “The War Room,” the Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon’s show on the network Real America’s Voice.

Mr. Roberts was discussing the Supreme Court’s ruling on Monday that presidents have substantial immunity from prosecution for what they do in office, a ruling that upended the criminal case against former President Donald J. Trump for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and that removes a potential barrier to the most radical elements of his second-term agenda if he is elected again.

“We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday, and in spite of all of the injustice — which of course friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve, know — we are going to prevail,” Mr. Roberts said, alluding to Mr. Bannon’s imprisonment.

He went on to say that “the radical left” was “apoplectic” because “our side is winning” and said, “And so I come full circle in this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

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[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 115 points 4 months ago (7 children)

"Don't fight back politically or we'll kill you."

Awesome! Totally reasonable and sane thing to say. I'm just hoping my country (Canada) can stay relatively unaffected by the brainrot that led to Project 2025.

I don't know how resilient we will be against rising fascism considering the high cost of living and the recent grocery price increases.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trudeau and the Liberals seem to be laying the red carpet for career whiner Poilievre to walk in to the leader position next year.

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago

Fascism is capitalism in decay. It will come to all capitalist societies unless they’re able to abolish capitalism.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

ORGANIZE instead of spending all your energy deciding what fascist to vote. before its too late, you are running out of time.

socialism is the only way we ever got rid of fascism and good luck.

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[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I live in Alberta

The brain rot is already setting in, sorry to say =/

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 4 months ago

In Alberta's case I'm more convinced every day that the very high number of American immigrants (historical and current) has something to do with it. If it stays within the province's borders, I'm okay with that, but it is something to keep an eye on.

Would be nice if Canada had real leftist politicians and not people like Mulcair, Horwath, and Singh (sorry Jagmeet, I like you but you're just not good enough). It frustrates me to no end that people in North America think the Liberals and Democrats are "the left."

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Realize before it's too late that your existing 'left' wing at best does nothing to curb facism and at worst actively enables fascism and y'all may have a chance.

But what will probably happen is: only you and a few others will notice. The media will pull political discourse rightward and believers of said media will tirelessly shout you down. Perhaps you, like i will watch miserably as you and others slide into the sarlac pit of fascism that apparently only you can see.

If you do fall my yankee ass will at least have company.

Good luck

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You gotta take an actual look at the bills Trudeau has passed. Fascism arrived 9 years ago. Police no longer require probable cause, free speech isn't, he's in bed with corporations and governs as an autocrat.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

This is a seditious threat that justifies preemptively striking in self-defense.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's a cold calculus but letting them kill someone first means the army has the moral and narrative high ground when the Army Rangers black bag these guys at 3 in the morning.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes I agree. Actions should always weigh more than words. We need them to put those words into action before it’s justified to act back.

So maybe we should be like: “bring it on”? Idk that’s probably not a good idea either.

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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Biden has already stated he won't do that.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Textbook thug mentality. "I'm gonna take your shit, if you do anything about it then you're forcing me to get violent."

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Said every abusive spouse/partner ever

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“Don’t make me hit you”

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[–] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 months ago (15 children)

The goddamnedfascists will kill us all and the democrats only response will be to say "you should have voted harder!".

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[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The same way that the Ukraine war could be bloodless if Ukrainians allowed it to be? Absurd 🙄

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What a moronic comparison. No, it's more like how the Maidan revolution that ushered in the USA's chosen president and made the Right Sector and other far-right groups ascendant was (mostly bloodless) when they stormed the capital with guns and forced the sitting administration to flee into exile.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And when some people protested the coup, they burned them alive in Odessa. THIS is the correct comparison with what's in the OP.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Ironically I think they would take Russia’s side here too. They think might is right.

There is no winning cause they will only shut up if they are beaten by violence, something that their opposition doesn’t want to resort to.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The revolution they want isnt going to happen even with copious amounts of blood sacrifice. But hey if you want to bleed out for the cause wecan accommodate

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 months ago

Headline should read, Heritage Foundation threatens bloodshed.

This is like reporting that a mob boss said it'd be terrible if something happened to your family.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (20 children)

I know Democrats are stuck with a shit candidate right now that supports an apartheid state currently committing genocide. And I know they're fully exploiting the fact that their opponent is Mussolini 2.0.

I know they're very critical of the current candidate, but what would they rather have? A psychopath extreme right dictator in charge of the world largest surveillance agencies, military force and nuclear arsenal, as well as one of the world's leading economy and biggest influence on the planet? Or a relatively sensible paraissent whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation and whose position can potentially be changed on the matter?

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why is this the only choice? Why has the DNC failed at every possible opportunity to build a better political party that can actually win and use those wins to advance an agenda that reduces the power of the reactionary right?

When it is framed this way, the false dichotomy falls away. The DNC is reactionary and their policies outcomes are predominantly indistinguishable from the right's policy outcomes. They applaud themselves for compromising with the right and they constantly demonize and disempower the left.

The only conclusion we can come to is that the Democrats are in fact allies of the Republicans, but now we need evidence.

The debates are organized, planned, and operated by a coalition of the two parties who work closely together to create the theater we see. The Democrats refused to touch the filibuster to do anything to advance their agenda but worked with Republicans to bypass it easily to pass the budget. The Democrats currently hold executive office and the Republican supreme court gave the president unlimited power to discharge duties and instead of doing anything with that power the DNC candidate said they will not use the power, a clear signal to the RNC power structure to proceed without fear.

I don't know how much more evidence we need, how many more observations we need, how many more cops need to kill black people while getting more funding and more equipment, how many more mass murders we need the military to commit, how much more environmental devastation we need to see before we understand that both parties are not equivalent but rather we don't have two parties. We have one party with two PR firms running damage control, consent manufacture, and storytelling to advance one singular agenda.

Stop buying this bullshit that one candidate is the harm reduction candidate. Both candidates are put up by the same power structure and electing either of them is a win for that power structure against the people. The only win for the people is total destruction of both "parties".

[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation

you can't seriously believe this is true right

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation

'94 Crime Bill, eulogy of Strom Thurmond, Cop City, continuity of the 1033 Program, continuity of for-profit carceral slavery, (if you're not for carceral abolition, you are party and accomplice to slavemasters, and John Brown would've shot you) continuity of the southern border concentration camps, continuity of the southern border wall construction, destruction of Nordstream, mass-arrests of protestors, selling out our infrastructure and educational services to arm two different genocidal vassal states, one of which is blatantly illegitimate and carrying out literal Manifest Destiny on their targets; I could go on all night peckerwood

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"I am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done." -- John Brown

They can fuck around and find out. I'm ticking down the days til I've got nothing to lose.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I want blood. Don’t care whose it is just so long as some of it is theirs

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, rob a blood bank, mebbe?

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

YOU LOST THE FIRST TIME, JUST LIKE THE GERMANS, TAKE THE HINT

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Narrator:it wasn't

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

They at least demonstrate they know there's only a threat against them from the left.

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