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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still a better pick than Trump.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yes true, but the question is: do uninformed swing-voters in battleground states feel this way?

At the moment Biden is losing in every one of them.

Friendly reminder 2020 was won by only 40,000 voters across 3 states. And Biden is significantly underperforming his 2020 run.

[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (8 children)

What did those same respondents say about Trump's fitness for the presidency?

FFS you trolls are busy. I thought he was busily commiting genocide. Now he's mentally deficient?

Make up your damn minds.

[–] Midnight@slrpnk.net 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Saying that Biden needs to be replaced is not the same as saying don't vote for whoever is the Democratic candidate. I've been screaming into the void telling people to vote on Lemmy and even I think he needs to be switched out. The post debate polling is that damning.

If the dems shove it down our throats I'm still voting for him, but there's still a narrow window to get a better candidate and we should take it.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The vitriol from people ignoring the fact he looks completely fucked is bizarre. Why are people supporting someone with one foot in the grave?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

It's the same team sport politics that MAGA supporters engage in.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It'd be a fairer comparison if we could see Trump without all his makeup

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Either they are Blue MAGA (cult of personality) or their true motive is to get Trump elected.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

What is blue MAGA?

I’ve seen the term before on some far-right news site but I don’t understand what it means.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There is a reddit comment that I condensed that summed it up well.

Blue MAGA is a term used by progressives and leftists to define liberals who tends to punch left with "vote blue no matter who" rhetoric, especially when dismissing criticism of the Democratic party and candidates, who generally conform to all the negative neoliberal stereotypes while demanding that they still get support because the other guys are worse.

Obviously, those people and others feel the same about "Genocide Joe" and that the lables still apply in the current election, where the same discourse from liberals is happening again.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Blind loyalists to blue guy instead of orange guy, devoid of evidence or reason to support their position... Mostly because they're too skittish to promote the obviously better course of action. Big time bandwagoneers.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What’s the better course of action here?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can get into deeper detail as I've done elsewhere in my recent comment history, but this DNC member of 30 years nails it. Watch the second half in particular, but the whole clip is relevant: https://youtu.be/DtmZjFBMU90

This is the most important video out there right now.

Edit: I love how you down-voted before you could've ever possibly viewed the clip. Truly, exceptional open mind you've got.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

that people voting "blue" are doing it with the same ignorance as the MAGA lot, who are still following a criminal liar.

[–] Steve@communick.news 12 points 4 months ago

Both can be true.
In fact the former could even be caused by the latter.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Obviously you didn't read the article because it's in there.

Biden isn’t the only candidate who didn’t fare well following his performance — 49% of registered voters also believe Donald Trump doesn’t have the mental and cognitive health to be president.

Yes, Biden is aiding and abetting genocide, but that wasn't part of the article. But literally 7/10 voters say Biden has lost the mental capacity to serve as president. It's the reality whether you accept it or not.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Well said. The number of down-votes on hard truths like this submission but a complete lack of substantive argument prove they're in denial.

[–] rocci@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

The point is that Democrats are trotting out a senile genocide-enabling old man to defend democracy, and then blaming everyone who asks why

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Trump is a legitimate threat to democracy.

So shouldn't we send literally anybody else? Isn't Biden's approval rating sub 40%?

I agree with lesser evil voting and harm reductuon, but we're not voting yet. They can maybe run somebody who might not throw the election.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Posting polls ≠ trolling

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody in the article or in this thread: "Genocide."

You: "This accurate reporting of real world polling doesn't reflect my world view, so it must be trolling and be about genocide!!"

[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I was just commenting on how quickly the tactics had changed.

You missed it. Again.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Why are you angry? Who is a troll, Yahoo?