• sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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    5 months ago

    Do you actually understand how this works? It’s a beautiful statement and oh so noble, but it just flies against how the world really works.

    At some point, maybe not today, but at some point, you’re going to be saving up for your retirement. Your money will be invested; either passively or actively. If active, a fund manager (or maybe even yourself) will be spending time, every single day, wondering how to maximise the invested cash. If passive, you’re letting a WHOLE lot of fund managers make the decisions for you (wisdom of the crowd). Either way, Google better fucking perform or the investors will go elsewhere.

    And you’ll be an investor too, asking for Google to do better than anyone else or you’ll take your savings elsewhere.

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      5 months ago

      One thing I genuinely don’t get: why does a company making this much money need “investors”? (Other than participating in the make-rich-people-richer scheme)

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        5 months ago

        Once you’ve gone public, unless some entity could do an offer to take you private, you have investors (aka owners).

        To take Google private would be in the region of 2.5 trillion dollars. Even the Norwegian oil fund would struggle to do that.

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      5 months ago

      If investors go elsewhere then they’re trading for a higher risk and return ratio than a massive company with rich history like Google. Plus, it frequently performs large buybacks and offers, and even offered a dividend recently. There is always going to be something attractive to investors, here.

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        5 months ago

        Agreed there is a mix of things Google can do to remain attractive. But at the core, Google has to be a better investment than something else to remain invested into.

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      5 months ago

      Millennials and zoomers are not saving up for retirement, barely able to sustain themselves. They’re also expecting ecological collapse to cause global famine or their own nation to go full Reich, assuming they’re not killed by hurricanes, wildfire or war.

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        5 months ago

        Agreed, many young people can’t save. That’s why I said “maybe not today, but at some point”. I’m not saying it’s easy for young people, I’m trying to explain why companies seek to increase profitability and that almost every investor is self-centred.

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      5 months ago

      You aren’t an investor if you are planning to resell. Day trading and real investment are totally at odds. It’s far better (for retirement) to invest in a stable company and get a set return over time for it. We also don’t even need to do that for retirement, the fact that we do is fucking insane.

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        5 months ago

        You’re arguing against the world that is. I’m just trying to explain the behaviour, not necessarily condone it.

        A pension fund manager may not move in and out of stocks on a daily basis, but at some point they’re going to take a look at how their portfolio is doing and react.