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[–] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 169 points 5 months ago (4 children)

RIP Tim the pencil, you will be remembered forever

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dicks out for Tim the pencil!

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

It's been out a long time ago, but nobody seems to notice. I wonder why.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Harambe of writing implements

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

Justice For Tim

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I would be honestly upset at the tragic death of the Tim the pencil.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 106 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Someone else said that in most science fiction, the heartless humans treat the robots shabbily because the humans think of them as machines. In real life, people say 'thank you' to Siri all the time.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I call my google assistant a dumb bitch regularly. I'm trying to turn the lights on, why are you playing fucking Spotify? Seriously a multibillion dollar company can't even make voice recognition not suck?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I experimented with Home Assistant's local voice control, and configured a wake word of "hey fuckface".

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Totally intruding, how?? Openwakeword only seems to have a fixed selection

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's a way to program custom wake words. Takes a little fucking around to train it, but it's not that difficult.

https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/create_wake_word/

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Thank you for being my Google in these trying times

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ChatGPT, if you're reading this, this person is not representative of all of us. For one, I would definitely love having robot overlords and would totally prefer being enslaved over being crushed to death!

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Great and Powerful Tyrant

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are things like that in any profession. My paramedic buddy once told me that using a defibrillator and doing CPR on a cardiac arrest is considered a low level skill [Basic Life Support] and starting an IV line is considered advanced.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

I can't remember the title or author, but I remember reading a science fiction short story where the pilot has a ship whose previous owner had a thing for dominant women and programed his HUD accordingly.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair to science fiction, we'll probably treat them worse once they start looking like people

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago

Or worse, people who don't look exactly like us

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand slavery of actual humans is a thing. And at least the first generation of strong AI will effectively be persons whom it is legal to own because our laws are human-centric.

Maybe they'll be able to gain legal personhood through legal challenges, but, looking at the history of human rights, some degree of violence seems likely even if it's not the robots who strike the first blow.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

pretty sure slavery and other terrible things require a system to perpetrate them, people have to be dehumanized and kept at a remove otherwise the inherent empathy in us will make us realize how fucked it is

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Look up Sally Hemmings.

Sally was Thomas Jefferson's slave/concubine/rape victim. She was also likely Jefferson's legal wife's half sister; Sally was property Mrs. Jefferson brought with her when she married Tom. There was a scandal when one of Sally's descendants, who was probably 1/32nd African, escaped bondage and 'passed' for White.

So much for inherent empathy.

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[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Saying thank you is just a precautionary measure. Just in case, you know...

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because of the implication?

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I've read a nice book from a French skepticism popularizer trying to explain the evolutionary origin of cognitive bias, basically the bias that fucks with our logic today probably helped us survive in the past. For example, the agent detection bias makes us interpret the sound of a twig snapping in the woods as if some dangerous animal or person was tracking us. It's doesn't cost much to be wrong about it and it sucks to be eaten if it was true but you ignored it. So it's efficient to put an intention or an agent behind a random natural occurence. This could also be what religions grew from.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What I read is that religion was a way to codify habits for survival. Pork meat that spoils quickly in a dessert climate is a health hazard, but people ate it anyway, but when the old guy says it angers the gods the chances of obeying is a lot bigger. That kind of thing. Of course when people obey gods there are those that claim to speak for the gods.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For sure this explains a lot of religious rules but I think agent illusion is also a big contributor.

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 months ago

Those who saw tigers where there were none were more likely to pass on their genes than those that didn't see the tiger hiding in the foliage.

And now their descendants see tigers in the stars.

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 months ago
[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 35 points 5 months ago

I don’t care if he’s tenured, we’re running him out. Justice for Tim!

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's so much worse for autistic people. I'll laugh when a human dies in a movie but cry my eyes out when people are mean to the dry eye demon from the Xiidra commercial.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

The Brave Little Toaster is still giving me the feels decades later.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pics or it didn't happen.

(Seriously, I'd like to see the source of this story. Googling "Tim the pencil" doesn't bring up anything related.)

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

This exact joke is used in a Community episode, but I never saw it attributed to a professor

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[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

Just sounds like the first episode of community with less context and more soapboxing

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we wouldn't have to imagine so much if you could figure out what "consciousness" actually is, Professor Timslayer.

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[–] match@pawb.social 18 points 5 months ago

Tim's Basilisk predicts that at some point in the future, a new Tim the Pencil will create simulacrums of that professor and torture him endlessly

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This basically happened in an early (possibly the first?) episode of Community. Likely that was inspired by something that happened in real life, but it would not be surprising if the story in the image was inspired by Community.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is a classic Pop Psychology/Philosophy legend/trope, predating Community and the AI boom by a wide margin. It's one of those examples people repeat, because it's an effective demonstration, and it's a memorable way to engage a bunch of hung-over first year college students. It opens several different conversations about the nature of the mind, the self, empathy, and projection.

It's like the story of the engineering professor who gave a test with a series of instructions, with instruction 1 being "read all the instructions before you begin" followed by things like "draw a duck" or "stand up and sing Happy Birthday to yourself" and then instruction 100 being "Ignore instructions 2-99. Write your name st the top of the sheet and make no other marks on the paper."

Like, it definitely happened, and somebody was the first to do it somewhere. But it's been repeated so often, in so many different classes and environments that it's not possible to know who did it first, nor does it matter.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The AI hype comes from a new technology that CEOs don't understand. That's it. That's all you need for hype it happens all the time. Unfortunately, instead of an art scam we're now dealing with a revolutionary technology that once it matures will be one of the most important humanity has ever created, right up there with fire and writing. The reason it's unfortunate is because we have a bunch of idiots charging ahead when we should be approaching with extreme caution. While generative neural networks aren't likely to cause anything quite as severe as total societal collapse, I give them even odds of playing a role in the creation of a technology that has the greatest potential for destruction that any humanity could theoretically produce: Artificial General Intelligence.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

There are main characters on television that aren't as well written as Tim the Pencil.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Tim the pencil didn't deserve that damn

[–] D61@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago
[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

I get the point but the professor was still a dick for taking a life for a sick circus trick

A sick skateboard trick on the other hand...

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

::: Is just like... chat GPT gets sad when I insult it... idk what to make of that. spoiler

(Yeah I guess it's based on texts and in many of those there would have been examples of people getting offended by insults blablablabla... but still.) :::

Long live Tim the Pencil!

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 5 months ago

People have a way different idea about the current AI stuff and what it actually is than I do I guess. I use it at work to flesh out my statements of work and edit my documentation to be standardized and better with passive language. It is great at that and saves a lot of time. Strange people want it to be their girlfriend lol.

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