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      I remember a documentary about a famous northwest passage expedition that was never seen again. One of the inuit people they talked to during an investigation claimed they found a boat, and in the captain’s quarters they found a body in the bed with a big smile on its face. That would be absolutely terrifying, but apparently that’s what naturally happens to corpses when their lips and gums receed.

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      It also covers those who are not biologically fit to be mates. Various conditions can appear as physical traits.

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      You’re right though, as soon as someone dies, there’s something not right at all about how they look. They don’t look asleep, they look uncanny valley.

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          Your dick, your face… they’ll pretty much, as we say in my corner of the world, “Fuck your shit up”

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            Now, imagine the violence early human bought upon early chimps to become the dominant species but also make them shy away from us.

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              There’s a difference between a few humans throwing some rocks at something’s head and poking it with a sharp stick and what chimps do.

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                I think you missed the proverbial point. We likely slaughtered the chimps and put their heads on pikes. Chimps have nothing on the violence humans are capable of inflicting.

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              Chimps kicked our weak asses off the trees. They should regret how that turned out for them.

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      Or perhaps whatever animal killed your friend is still nearby. Maybe it’s still hungry, or maybe it feels it’s territory is still underappreciated.

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    Or you need to identify those who aren’t behaving properly (sickness or other resource intense disability) and should be outcast from the group (something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do)

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      we should be outcasting all sorts of toxic behaviors instead of putting them in charge.

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        I do believe there’s a happy medium between out-casting and electing, probably even a large amount of medium space.

        But that’s not what you get in a first past the post system.

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        Yeah, like neurotypical people. There should be a rule against holding office in government if you’re neurotypical.

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      Actually, tribal humans tend to support people with disabilities, even severe ones. It’s only feudal and capitalist societies that treat disabled people with cruelty. It isn’t natural.

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        I was thinking psychopath. Someone who tries to blend in and act normal but never quite gets it. We have no problem be horrors to other species, but early humans couldn’t afford a psychopath willing and wanting to kill their own tribe.

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          Psychopath is just Latin for mentally ill person. Someone suffering from depression is a “psychopath”, and no, depressed people aren’t dangerous. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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            Are you legitimately stupid? Do you not understand what the commonly accepted definition is for psychopath?

            I suggest you figure it out before spouting Reddit level drivel.

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            Even though that’s what the latin translation is, that’s not what the word means. The definition is “Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality is a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egocentric traits masked by superficial charm and the outward presence of apparent normality”.

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              It’s not in the DSM, because it’s not real. It’s a fake diagnosis pushed by pseudoscientists.

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                Okay, first of all: the DSM is used primarily in North America. The majority of the world uses ICDM.

                Secondly, the DSM has gone through many iterations and changes. For instance, DSM-I and -II contained psychopathy as a mental illness. It was replaced by ASPD in DSM-III. What we term today as “major depressive disorder” was also introduced in DSM-III. Did depression not exist prior to the third DSM? Did ASPD not exist? Does psychopathy not exist now that it has been replaced by ASPD?

                Thirdly, there’s so much bloody overlap in conditions listed in the DSM that you could present two psychiatrists with the same list of symptoms and they would diagnose two different disorders. And to my mind, this lends more credence to the first DSM’s principle classifications of psychotic, neurotic, and behavioural disorders.

                To summarize, the DSM is regional and therefore cannot be applied globally. It describes medical conditions and those medical conditions can be redefined at any time. And it is borderline unreliable due to diagnostic confusion and overspecification. In short, the presence or lack thereof of some cluster of symptoms in the DSM is not an indicator of the existence of a condition.

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                  The DSM removed it because it was fake. Early psychologists believed in it, and over time they were proven wrong, so the official materials were revised.

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      something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do

      People keep saying this, but I really don’t see right wingers arguing for outcasting people.

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        I’m sorry, you don’t see phobias in the right wing?

        It’s proven right wing individuals have more active fear trigger regions of the brain.

        Building a wall and shutting down the border, letting people die of dehydration in the desert, are policies from the left wing?

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    It would be a evolutionary benefit to fear / avoid any person that is behaving strangely in certain distinct ways. Could be a dangerous transmittable disease, i.e. rabies etc.

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    The humanoids we evolved from were at one point, not the only humanoids around. We coexisted with other, different species (neanderthals being an example). Homosapien is just the one that survived.

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    Illness, death, and antisocial behavior. All of these were threats we evolved to handle, people who are “a little bit off” in one way or another, who might endanger the group or individual. This, and that our pattern seeking brains don’t like it when something doesn’t easily fit within an existing schema, even more so if it lies just outside of our existing preconceptions.

    Obviously, I can’t say that these definitely are the reasons why we experience the uncanny valley, but I think it’s probably a better explanation than… Skin walkers? Or whatever else the meme would be implying.

    Still, it’s a cool premise for a horror story at least.

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    We still do. They’re called psychopaths. It’s been a problem for so long that we’ve evolved an instinctual response to it.

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    “But in general, take my advice, when you meet anything that’s going to be Human and isn’t yet, or used to be Human once and isn’t now, or ought to be Human and isn’t, you keep your eyes on it and feel for your hatchet.”

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    Or it’s just that something feels off, fellow human.

    On the other hand, maybe because we’re a highly social species and some people are just crazy, which you see in their face or behavior.

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    Not necessarily fear it’s just most of the time today it’s used in horror

    Back then it was probably used to differentiate Neanderthals