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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 178 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Awesome, do META next please!

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

But how does that help capitalists make more money by eliminating their competition?

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[–] spookex@lemmy.world 69 points 6 months ago

Even better

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There will be a rush of US startups to replace it, and they will all be stage 1 enshittification, so they might actually be good for a while, like TikTok once was.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Or people will just migrate to the YouTube and Insta clones.

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[–] Vent@lemm.ee 56 points 6 months ago

If they said or implied anything else, they would lose all leverage. The public couldn't care less about who owns tiktok, so they need people to think they'll lose it to have any public support.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago (38 children)
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[–] laxe@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's probably not a bluff. They've pretty much saturated the U.S. market; there's not much room left to grow here. It would make more sense to focus their efforts on growing in other regions where they have plenty of headroom to increase their userbase and monetization. Depending on how things play out, they could match their current revenue in a matter of years and still have room left to grow. There's also the potential to re-enter the U.S. market down the line. Why would they throw that all away and essentially create their own competitor by selling their core technology and diluting/confusing their brand with whatever U.S. company they sell to?

[–] NucleusAdumbens@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

I'd think the fact they've saturated the US market is exactly why it'd be too valuable to give up. They'd lose a ton of revenue, tanking their valuation. They may be better off selling. From there they could prob just clone it and promote a competing service in those unclaimed markets using a portion of the extra sale price they get for maintaining (and selling a product with) US market dominance

[–] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 months ago

They’ve pretty much saturated the U.S. market; there’s not much room left to grow here

That... doesn't make sense to me. So because there's no room to grow, they pull out of the U.S. and lose the likely ~$1 bil spent on digital stickers for live streamers?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

they use the same algorithm across all of their companies so selling it would create a strong competitor and the chinese government is likely to block the sale anyways. tiktok revenue is a small slice of bytedance's income, so it makes sense to swallow the relatively small loss to keep their product intact when it's crystal clear that it's far superior to anything else atm.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

The tiktok algorithm is good in the same sense that cocaine is good.

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

US should call their bluff. If Tiktok gets banned, people will complain for a little bit until people forget and move on to what's next. Why doesn't an American company make something that's practically identical? People will be all desperate for their 5 second dopamine rush that they will download anything.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (5 children)
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[–] niisyth@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago

India did this and Instagram reels is the main one that benefited. Probably be the same for US if it pulls through on this.

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[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's Vine time! What? Just... just bring it back. Call it "Kudzu" or some crap if Elon Musk owns the rights to Vine.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s fre

Free sha voc a doo.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

Could they please pull from Europe, too?

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We tried that with facebook in the eu. Didn’t work

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Me, an American, to my German cousin:

"So, yeah, I'm changing email addresses, here's my new one."

"Email? Are you using WhatsApp?"

"Er, no, how about text?"

"We all have WhatsApp."

"Okay, maybe Google Chat?"

"WhatsApp? WhatsApp."

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Google knew youtube shorts didn't stand a chance in a fair market.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

If money wasn't the point, then influence was. Congress is right to shut them down.

Foreign owned, FARA-unregistered influence operations have never been a facet of "free speech" in the USA.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

It's pretty weird that they'd admit it.

The smart move would have been to sell it and take the L, and use the new money to build the next thing.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If the Chinese government is behind this, it's a great play. Having Joe Biden be "the guy who banned tik tok" would severely undermine his election chances.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

14 year olds aren't the only people who use Tik Tok

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Lemmy really seems to generally think that TikTok isn't massively overall popular. Lemmy would have someone thinking it's a niche app only being used by teenagers.

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago
[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

Even better

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Bye Felecia

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Okay bye Felicia

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Nice hope they won't budge.

[–] nytrixus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Well, it's better than what could've happened. I'll accept this.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

First, negotiations are not yet over, so they’re hoping courts overturn the ban.

Second, TikTok is very popular outside the US too, though 40% of ad revenue is in the US. They’d survive.

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