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Oh no, Meta is shutting down official support for an old system?
Does this make it possible to use the headset without ever having a Meta account? That’s the only way I’d be willing to interact with a Quest device.
But that doesn’t give security updates.
That’s what happens with old devices and dealing with it is part of the cost of using them
Bro the quest is only 5 years old. And stop excusing shitty practices just because they are the normal.
Lol, the famously great reading comprehension of the Internet.
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I didn’t excuse shit
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5 years of updates is a pretty normal timeline for mobile devices
- I’m not excusing shit
- Here is an excuse.
Pointing out that you’re whining about something thats irrelevant isn’t excsing shit, but reading comprehension is hard for you I guess.
The initial point was that the dick move was blocking developers who wanted to and were able from sending content hosted on metas server to Quest 1 headsets. I responded with a sarcastic comment giving people a way to get around that dickheaded move by sideloading
It is not related in any way to not giving security updates anymore. That’s normal EOL shit for devices and software. If you don’t like that or don’t like how long meta offered support that’s a you issue and I did not comment on it other than pointing out that 5 years is normal update life on devices like that after you already changed the subject
something thats irrelevant
its perfectly relevant to the conversation.
Get out of this reddit mentality you have where every interaction you have with another person on the internet is an argument you’re trying to “win”.
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I’m really hoping that Valve releases a new headset by the time my Quest inevitably becomes unusable.
I would expect Valve’s next headset to be expensive, complex and requiring extensive configuration by the user, just like their previous efforts. Pretty much the polar opposite of the Quest.
Obviously you’ve never had a headset from Valve. It is literally plug in 3 things, setup space so you don’t hit your monitor (optional) and play it.
You lost me at plug.
If you struggle with plugging a cable into a computer then VR probably isn’t for you.
You can’t be helped.
“BuT MeTa aNd TheIr MoNeY ArE GOOD FoR VR!!!”
I warned everyone. I warned everyone back in, like, 2016.
Are we going to ignore that VR adoption is basically held up by Oculus/facebook. I hate facebook and their support for their titles on the VR space are dreadful for instance it is unacceptable what they did with Echo Arena but you can literally look at the steam hardware survey and see that Oculus/facebook makeup nearly 70% (67.4% to be more accurate) of VR headsets in the market today for PCVR. Who the fuck is funding many VR game devs right now? I can tell you it ain’t many publishers and the biggest one right now is Facebook as much as I hate to say it. Facebook absolutely is a crutch VR needs to survive in this market but we gamers should make use of them for as long as possible then ditch them whenever its convenient for us.
Hell the PSVR2 looking very juicy if that has great PCVR support and it doesn’t require any ps5 nonsense to work but PSVR2 is a perfect example of how VR is not in a great place and a big part of it is price related. Like VR nuts (like I) would gladly pay higher tier prices for a good headset but to some average joe, they see a headset that costs as much as a fucking console that only works with a limited number of games. Hell the thing can even make you sick trying to use it. Most people aren’t going to pay 1000+ dollars to try VR to see if they “like it”, hell they aren’t even paying $550.
Again I’m not here to advocate for Facebook but I will sure as hell make use of their investments in VR because they are sort of throwing that money in a fire pit with how the market is. Facebook plans on trying to fill that fire pit with so much money it becomes a bridge that is profitable and it might be in the future but right now if you want someone to try VR, a oculus headset is probably the best bang for your buck headset especially if you buy it used since realistically most people are going to play with it for a month then be done with it and try to hock the thing.
The second I heard Facebook bought Oculus, I knew it’d be ewaste. Fuck zuck and any piece of shit greedy pig like him.
Not trying to negate what you said, but I honestly don’t remember people saying that. I remember people complaining about Oculus being bought.
Yeee anybody who bought these as an actual standalone headset is in for a rude awakening of how console gaming works and how app store monopolies and vertical integration are able to offer you prices that massively undercut the competition like this.
As always - PC games are forever, piracy is forever. My quest 2 exists to have VD on it and nothing else, and when support is discontinued if the dev keeps updating it - I’ll sideload the .APKs myself.
My quest 2 exists to have VD on it
Sounds a lot like a girl I knew back in college. Do you also share it with all your friends and people you barely met?
God bless Jessica
What is a quest 1?
I hate this so much. Why should they be able to do this?
One thing is stopping customer support and internal software/OS development. But why should they BLOCK compatibility for third party developers?
I guess because fuck you, they got their money 🤷 It really should be illegal.
Better to have invested in a Valve Index I feel than get an Oculus. Might be more expensive, but I trust Valve to not completely fuck over their consumers.
I mean not really. Again the index is a great headset but look at how long people actually use their headsets for. Is it better to throw your money into a pit that is $400 or $1000. VR is a weird since you either love it or hate it. Most people are going to hate it and many people aren’t really into the idea of reselling their stuff. This isn’t to say facebook good or some nonsense like that but from a prospective customer’s standpoint why spend so much money on something you might not even like. You don’t have to drill any holes in your walls to put up base stations while inside out tracking isn’t great it gets the job done and again its far more convenient. I like the option to have base stations but again realistically putting in so much work for something you might only spend a week or month on is not a great investment of your money or time. If you like VR, I would highly suggest getting a better headset than a quest or oculus headset but a newcomer I will 100% suggest a quest over anything else especially a used model to save them extra cash.
Tech company, they love E-Waste. Your thing can still play fine? Fuck you, buy our new shit that have all those advanced privacy invasive tracker loaded into it, and let us snoop around so we can share your info with other tech company.
I still can’t fathom people are somehow okay with buying a device that is, by design and function, festooned with cameras and microphones from goddamn Facebook and waving it around inside their homes. Like, what?
Vr is very price prohibitive and Oculus/Facebook sell headsets at a loss to make their marketshare. Its not great but if you want to “try vr” especially something you hear will make you physically sick to use and you might not even like. Its just logical to spend the least amount of money on it for a “proper headset”. Like if you value your privacy that is fine and completely understandable but lets be honest here, most people don’t. Especially with the popularization of social media and smart phones like we can even apply the same logic with your argument with phones like why would you buy a device that has so many cameras and microphones and wave it around your home and toilet. Hell I think the phone is actually worse since most people bring them everywhere while a headset is a bit more constrained on where you can take it.
By killing the product completely they’re forcing their users to upgrade. It’s always profits man, that’s always the reason
It’s called “planned obsolescence”.
Not even planned obsolescence… It’s just “hey, you guys aren’t buying our slightly better new version. We were talking today about how to make a little bit more money, and we decided, hey, we don’t want to maintain this anymore. We also don’t want to unlock it and let someone else take over, and while we’re at it let’s just start shutting off features until you buy a new one. Because fuck you”
“WE ARE GREEN”
What would happen if you did a charge back if you bought one with a credit card?
Meanwhile my OG oculus rift is still working fine
I’m about to revive my CV1 as I reinstall my gaming rig in a couple months. I hope it won’t be bricked by those Facebook idiots.
Is there a homebrew scene with these Quest devices?
Yeah, via SideQuest (which is a sideloader program), and most game engine support quest development. However it wouldn’t surprise me if Meta were able to prevent that.
They really are horrible to devs, they offer no real support, especially for Unreal devs, and their dev forums are practically dead because of this.
They don’t understand how to encourage devs. I was thinking of getting a Meta Quest 3, but seeing this post has me reconsidering the idea.
Device was released May 21, 2019. So about five years of use, assuming someone bought one on release day.
Meh.
And? Why take active steps to stop it from working instead of just stopping technical support? Oh yeah, to get more money.
Why assume that’s what I was saying?
Your entire comment reads as a refute of OPs criticism and an excuse for Meta’s actions. If you were agreeing with OPs criticism, you would typically use phrases like “only five years”.
Or I would express that I’m on the fence between thinking the thing lasted long enough to be worth it, and thinking it wasn’t.
