• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Why is it better if a name is an English word? In fact isn’t that exactly why you’re saying they’re terrible names?

    And it’s cute that you think those names fell out of fashion because they’re “bad” and that they won’t be back in a couple generation along with all the names that were popular at the same time as those ones.

    In the meantime, why don’t we shit on names like “john” which is a stupid misspelling of the original Yohanan?

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      7 months ago

      probably beacuse im an english speaker growing up in america. Cognitive bias and all that.

      I’m sure they’ll be back later, i’ll still hate them just a little though.

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        7 months ago

        Like… I agree they’re bad. But mostly because people are just stealing little snippets of cultures they know nothing about, just to make their kids names unique.

        I don’t think there is anything wrong with a unique name, but don’t make a mockery of another culture in the attempt.

        But probably avoid names that rhyme with dirty words…

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          7 months ago

          idk, i think it’s productive to make fun of names from time to time, i think we attach to them too much. It’s definitely too much to make fun of people with bad names though.

          There are definitely a lot of other names in other cultures, but i would need some genuine context before hand. Otherwise im just going to assume it isn’t a real name, because people have a weird propensity to just fucking lie all the time for some reason.

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            7 months ago

            That’s reasonable. Unfortunately the kid (and maybe even the parent) doesn’t know. They just saw it somewhere and copied it. Like all the “eigh” instead of “ey” is Celtic, but the folks naming their kids probably don’t even know that. As a result they make all Celtic names look dumb by association. That said, I love a good Celtic name, so I might be one of those people who’d do it 😅

            You’re right though, people take names too seriously. As long as a name isn’t gonna rhyme with something nasty, it’s fine.

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              7 months ago

              i genuinely cant imagine putting that much effort into naming someone only to completely fuck it up and for them to be stuck with a shitty name, or at least having a shitty name at one point for the entirety of their life.

              Literally just stick to the normal names, pick one that people aren’t using at that point in time, or one that they are, literally who cares. Bonus points if you use the most common generic name because it provides slightly more anonymity.

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                7 months ago

                You can’t imagine someone putting in that much effort.I can’t imagine why someone would be so passionate about making fun of someone else’s name.

                Like… you’re saying “they might get made fun of” but youre the one making fun of them. Just dont. Idky, but it’s the people who are making fun of kids who are the most concerned that people will make fun of kids.

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                  7 months ago

                  i mean look, if you dont want to put effort into your kids name, that’s fine, just use a name. Almost everyone does it. If you want it to be unique though, it better damn well be a good one.

                  I’m not explicitly making fun of people with bad names, i’m just saying that in my opinion, they’re bad names. That should mean nothing to anybody. That’s like the equivalent of me telling you that you use your brain wrong.

                  Another part of the problem here, is that names are somewhat explicitly tied to identity, which im sure people will love to yell at me about, like the people with weird names who get shit on have learned to deal with, much like everyone else with a weird name. It just doesn’t matter.

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                    7 months ago

                    Damn well better pick a good one? If you don’t then what? Some loser on the internet makes fun of you or your kid? You think the kids are teasing each other when all their names are like this?

                    FWIW I think these people did put effort into these names, and in their bubble/micro-culture (which may not be the same culture from which they got the names), these names are great. Making fun of names is like making fun of clothes; at best it makes no difference and at worst you ignorantly insult someone’s culture and heritage.

                    I kind of agree wrt some of these names, which likely make a mockery of someone else’s culture - but it’s up to that culture to decide if they think it’s a mockery or not.

                    So you’re free to do call these names and parents stupid, but then people like me will be there pointing out that, unless you’re from one of these cultures, you’re at least as stupid for making a stink about it.

                    But like you said, a mountain of a molehill on both sides.