• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Yeah but of course but with Windows I don’t need a third party program to install things onto the OS.

      When you actually think about it is bizarre why don’t they just let people install things.

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        I don’t think you understand how Linux and software work. Windows software doesn’t work on Linux because it depends on other Windows software. Wine tries to supply these missing pieces. Linux isn’t stopping from doing anything.

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          Yes I do understand how Linux software works. I don’t like it, I’m allowed to understand it and still not like it. What’s with the gatekeeping?

          I want my computer to just work I don’t want to have to mess around with it I don’t want to have to try and manage drivers and find versions of drivers that work with a particular operating system I just want to install the program and then use the program.

          Windows offers me that. As does Mac accept it comes with a stupidly expensive computer.

          Linux is just unnecessary busy work for people who like that kind of thing but I don’t really care about all of that stuff I care about using the programs not the underlying computer stuff. If you like that kind of thing great. But I just want the operating system in my case to get out of the way.

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              Here’s me then conceding to the fact that Linux is much harder to use than Windows - when anything goes wrong. Most people can barely even use windows properly, so no, Linux is out of the question for the majority unless they only ever use a web browser.

              For people like me however, Linux IS easier to use, which is why the same type of people easily fall into the trap of assuming everyone can be like them.

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              That’s not the point (which is also subjective; if you are a Linux developer or uses Linux software at work it’s much harder to use Window). They implied that Linux doesn’t let you install proprietary software, which is not true and shows they don’t understand how software works. Windows software requires proprietary software from Microsoft to run. You can’t run Windows software on Linux because those components are proprietary to Microsoft and are not available for Linux, although Wine tries to reverse engineer them.

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              As I said the programs I need to use do not work on Linux I’ve tried to get them to work on Linux and either they straight up won’t run, or they run with terrible performance even with Wine. So it was never really my choice to like Linux.

              At that point I gave up and just went back to Windows because realistically I just don’t actually care that much. The point is if it isn’t easy to use out of the box 99% of people are just going to consider it not worthwhile.

              Besides I would only end up remoting into a Windows computer anyway in order to get work stuff done, so it just seems like unnecessarily adding a layer of complexity. Just so I can go “screw you Microsoft”. It’s not like they’ll notice.

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              1 year ago

              Veganism for computers.

              How can you tell if somebody is a Linux user? Because they tell you, immediately, upon meeting them for the first time. Then they tell you you’re a stupid subhuman for using windows.

              It’s great fun.

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        There’s WSL on windows, I don’t wanna say it’s the same thing as wine, but yeah, you may need other programs to install linux software on windows.

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            What are you talking about? In which statement did I say that average joe needs to install linux on windows or any linux software?

            The person I’ve replied to thinks that linux doesn’t allow you to just install windows software right away for some unknown reason while the same doesn’t apply to windows, and I wanted to give some context to them because they clearly have no clue why we need wine in the first place.

            So instead saying “wtf dude you have no idea what you talkin about” I tried to explain the exact same problem applies to windows too.

            Then you arrive and it looks like you think I need a lecture on what software the average person needs like how does it matters? The average person doesn’t even know what linux is, they are just buying laptops and running random shit.

            You reeeeally need to read carefully before posting shit online dude.