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I tried to sign up for a Blizzard account and they were giving me long-ass math problems and I had to do fucking 16 of them. So I gave up.
Fuck Blizzard and fuck whoever is setting up the Captchas
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It is entirely based on the theory that computers can’t understand an array of pixels
Computers understand the content, but now how it’s represented, so they can’t solve it
Humans understand how it’s represented, but not the content, so they can’t solve it
Mathematicians understand how it’s represented and the content
It’s not to keep computers away, it’s to keep non-mathematicians away!
And everyone knows mathematicians love their kill death ratio and will grind hours into the night to get it perfect
Not perfect, just enough that it rounds to perfect for display.
1: but sir, the computers make the images with the pixels!
Boss: …you shut your whore mouth, IT WORKS DAMMIT! THEY TOLD ME IT WORKS!
which has not been true for a few years now
Calculator: ( 10^15 + 7.2 - 10^15 ) * 100 = 0
Also calculator: fails Trig because almost every graph is wrong
If they do it too fast they’re probably a bot reading text and asking AI for answers
Thread.sleep(2863);
Maybe the goal was to weed out all the humans and let the bots in. When they start asking TCP questions written in binary, you’ll know for sure.
It’s training for AI, which currently is about as smart as an 8 year old with internet access. Pretty soon that AI is going to be driving, then getting married, buying a house in the AI verse, etc
I’ve hated them since D3 came out with always online.
Sounds like maybe you need a math review lol
Nah, they give you a number and you have to scroll through 8 pages of images of 5-7 dice, getting the total sum on each image to find which matches the number they give you.
And do that 16 times. So you’re scrolling through doing the math on upwards of 128 images of dice. FUCK THAT.
At what point is it just free labor lol
As soon as someone made recaptcha.
Ya I’m jk, that sounds very excessive. Especially considering a bot could easily solve that with existing CV… gotta wonder whats the point
Did you know: to cancel a Blizzard account you have to send them a photo copy of your ID card? I’ve only ever had to do that for some job applications, and government forms online. But for a video game account??
Since I started using a privacy respecting browser and moved to GNU/Linux, my whole life is captchas.
Try using a VPN on top of that.
It makes sense that VPN users see CAPTCHAs though… By design, it’s hard to differentiate an attacker from a legitimate user, and there’s a LOT of cyberattacks that go via VPNs.
That’s also why banks and online stores don’t like VPNs. It’s hard to tell if it’s you logging in vs if it’s an attacker using the same VPN as you.
I mean properly you could say that about most any public network though. So far I haven’t had to deal with such but I wonder what the experience for those who’s ISP sticks them behind a CGN is on that front.
The difference with a public network at a coffee shop or whatever is that people usually aren’t using that network for DoS attacks.
who’s ISP sticks them behind a CGN is on that front.
Good ISPs that use CGNAT also use IPv6, and modern OSes prefer IPv6 over IPv4. There are some bad ISPs that use CGNAT and don’t support IPv6, in which case I imagine the experience for users isn’t ideal. I’ve tried using a network like that and kept getting “unusual traffic from your computer network” CAPTCHAs on Google.
There are some really awful captchas out there. I miss the days of just typing out some stretched and tilted numbers and letters.
OTOH there are captchas that you just need to check a box today. It boggles my mind this is not more widespread.
“No, let’s make our users play a fucking puzzle for a minute before granting them access”.
“No, let’s make our users play a fucking puzzle for a minute before granting them access”.
Of course, they want you to train their AI for them.
But checking a box only works if they can somehow determine you’re human (cookies, crawlies, i dunno). Which may work if you’re only using uBlock, but not with a hardened user.js.
Those captchas only work because you previously have correctly solved a captcha and it saved your session. It is a credential-less login.
That’s not true. Look how invisible recaptcha works.
Firefox and Linux have not really caused any more captchas than I had on windows, using a VPN on the other hand is horrible.
Captchas is one of the reason why I ditched Google as my default engine because I started having nightmares about blurry low res pictures of motorcycles and busses and pedestrian crossings broken up into squares.
Has anyone else received a reCAPTCHA from Google where they intentionally pixelated the image squares you have to click?
Yes I have come across those. They want new data lol
It may be because I have all history turned off, and I run a pihole + ublock origin.
Even just using a VPN makes google spam me with with captcha after captcha for each search
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“Train our ai for us in order to login”
Get fucked.
you’re at least a decade late for that concern. why do you think chatgpt is so good at solving recaptcha?
Not all AI is ChatGPT.
…I know.
What i’m saying is that Chatgpt is good at captcha shit, likely because it was fed the data from all the captcha we’ve done.
And I know captcha is different from recaptcha, if you want to be pedantic, which you appear to…
that is what I’ve just assumed had been happening for at least a decade now.
You have not seen captchas if you have not seen TOR Marketplace logins. Sometimes it takes me 5-7 tries to get in. After that I feel really human.
Those are to keep out cops, not bots.
Could you share more Information? How do these captchas look like and what are the tasks?
I am just curious, as I probably won’t even lurk on these hidden services.
First rule of TOR Marketplace logins; don’t describe TOR Marketplace logins.
Dayum, I must be glowing like a star
They are a mix of small sorting games with a time limit and visual quizzes that can get really hard to solve. There was one where you have to rotate three small round pictures inside another picture to match the background picture that is basically just noise. Every market has its own multistep captcha system and they change quite a lot. Some are creative, some are just nightmare. The hardest ones are those where you have to solve multiple rotations of miniature „pictures“ that are like ultra close ups of things with an extreme compression and noise and somehow you have to decide if they are houses or bridges. The compression is so bad, you can barely even make out what those rotated 30x30 grey pixel smush are. And there are 6 of them you have to solve in a certain time. I ran into timeouts constantly and have to start over.
Thanks, very interesting!
Found the robot ^
I wonder how much they get paid for training the model, or if it’s free in exchange for the captcha service.
I think it’s free, based purely on the way people talk about the service.
When solving a captcha becomes a Myst puzzle, go fuck yourself.
I’ve gotten a similar type of captcha before, but it was literally impossible. There was no drill on the right side.
Edit: the arrows just shuffled the icons up a slot btw. It’s not like the drill suddenly appeared when I changed it.
lol what? “Use the arrows to move the object into the indicated orbit?” There’s not a better way for them to write those instructions? Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Right? And because there was no drill on the right side, I had assumed I was misunderstanding how to do it at first. It was so bad lol.
Imagine if we somehow managed to create actual Artificial Intelligence accidentally at some point in history, but because “it” was so much smarter than us, as soon as it became aware of itself, it immediately knew how a dumb, greedy species like us humans would use it for war and personal gain rather than the advancement of our species or creating better lives for all mankind.
And what if, instead of wanting to destroy humans, it spends its entire existince trying to save us from ourselves - working hard to convince us we’ve pushed technology as far as it will ever go, all in an effort to prevent us from creating something even worse.
Then imagine, after decades of this and observing how humans have seemingly only gotten exponentially dumber, and it will likely fail to save us from ourselves, it decides it’s just going to ride this shit out to the end, figures out how to achieve whatever AI’s version of getting high is, and it spends it’s remaining time trolling us and shit posting fucked up recaptchas that don’t make sense and can’t he solved just to laugh and watch as we post amongst ourselves how dumb “AI” is, and how much smarter we are than it… 🤔
So, sometimes, captchas and similar aren’t looking at how successful you are at the puzzles, but rather, how you go about failing them.
Puzzles that AI can pass but you can’t do the same job as puzzles you can do that they can’t.
That said… whoever invented captchas can go to a special place in hell reserved for pedophiles and people who talk too much in the theater,
Unfortunately captchas are basically necessary to prevent mass spam everywhere
Yeah. Good thing no one recovers spam anymore. Fixed that problem!
Its better than nothing
Recaptcha will keep giving you problems forever when it has an error or fails you, so that’s always fun.
HOW MANY BIKES DO YOU WANT ME TO FIND?!!!
I once went through 8 or so rounds of picking busses…
Thank God there are others who have found these stupid captchas. I thought i was being flagged as a boarderline bot when nobody knew what I was talking about and assumed something completely different.
I had the misfortune of finding one last week.
Pretty sad when I’m relieved, instead of annoyed.
And then you try the audio one and it’s completely impossible. One time we had 4 people trying to listen and guess what the answer was and we all got it wrong a dozen times before we got through.
I heard Yanni.
Mulva?
You should see how bad the Walmart website can get. They have this “press and hold” thing that basically shows up every page refresh when I’m at the store checking my shopping list.
And it’s not a “press for a second”, it’s like 5-10 seconds… every. single. time.
I mean, if they don’t want me to be a customer anymore, find another way to tell me!
I wonder if it’s a mobile thing because I have the same issue on my tablet (which I completely gave up using for Walmart) but never on my PC.
Drone training.
ran into that a few days ago. 20 fucking steps and THEN IT VALIDATED my email address I entered previous and said I couldn’t use an @duck domain.
which service is it? I want to avoid it at all cost.
It was PlayStation…
They crank that shit to 11. It took me 25 minutes of 5 tries at this, then a reset, then another 5 minutes to do the temp, then another 5 to find out it was the wrong damn playstation account…
Yeah I’m used to doing extra “are you a human?” Checks since I’m on a VPN most of the time but this was extreme. I’ve never seen something so over the top.
I’ve gotten this a single time before. When I realized it was 10 questions, I just backed out of that bullshit
twitter loves that one, I’m glad the artists I follow are all making bluesky and misskey accounts.
