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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    122·
    9 months ago

    They aren’t wrong. Camera systems do have a lot of issues. Calling someone stupid for pointing that out is absurd.

    Cameras can mess up when they’re dirty, when it’s raining, when it’s dark, when there’s glare.

    Image processing and recognition is also a hell of a lot slower and more computationally expensive than numbers from a LIDAR system.

    • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialEnglish
      317·
      9 months ago

      Didn’t intend to call them stupid. My intent was to say they should try out a product that uses the tech before passing judgement on the effectiveness of it. I was hoping the use of “under” would be taken a lot lighter.

      Though, self-driving doesn’t have to be a 100% scenario item either. It doesn’t have to have the ability to activate all the time. It’s cloudy/sunny 90%+ of the days where I’m at.

      We would get nowhere if the criteria was “must be 100% useful in 100% of scenarios 100% of the time”.

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        111·
        9 months ago

        Everybody is aware it’s not going to be flawless out of the gate, or perhaps ever. That’s not the point.

        They’re saying using cameras and only cameras is a bad idea and makes “Autopilot” inherently subpar in situations where cameras don’t work so well.

        • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialEnglish
          37·
          9 months ago

          Sure, but having actually driven one instead of commenting on the internet, the issues that have come up with AP/FSD have seem to be more data related (speed limits causing slowdowns).

          When there are vision issues the car complains and it’s up to you as the driver to take control. I don’t care how many sensors are on/not on the car, if it tells you it can’t handle the situation safely, that’s now on you as the driver.

          Plus, vision-only drivers assist isn’t new and Tesla isn’t the first on the road with it. I’ll let you figure out which particularly popular Japanese brand known for their crossovers 😉

          • abcxyz@lemm.eeEnglish
            122·
            9 months ago

            Never go full fanboy… try actually understanding what people are telling you, why fail safes are good idea, why redundancy systems are implemented, etc.

            Your anecdotal experience of “I drive in fog and rain and its been good” means nothing…

            • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialEnglish
              28·
              9 months ago

              Hey, I recognize the system has its faults but a number of people simply base opinions on bad faith arguments and articles soliciting clicks.

              Radar/lidar isn’t the magic end-all-be-all that internet automotive commenter-engineers claim.

              I’m sorry you disagree with what I’m presenting.

          • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            53·
            9 months ago

            When there are vision issues the car complains

            Except for when it doesn’t and the car plows straight into the back of a lorry. Or runs over a teenager getting off a school bus. Etc.

            • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialEnglish
              25·
              9 months ago

              Which is already abusing the feature. These are driver assist features, not driver replacement.

                  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    92·
                    9 months ago

                    Are you serious?

                    Autopilot

                    Full Self Driving

                    “Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017”

                    “Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you’re not using it!”

                    Etc.

                    Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it’s just the law that’s preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided.