Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations
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The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

  • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
    92·
    9 months ago

    The materials to make batteries aren’t readily available in the quantities needed to add grid scale storage

    Let me stop you right there. The batteries for grid scale are not going to be lithium, which I’m guessing is what you’re thinking.

    Like with most energy tech, we should be investing in it all so we have a diverse mix of solutions.

    We did. Batteries won and hydrogen lost. Now is the time to deploy what we have.

    • RedFox@infosec.pubEnglish
      21·
      9 months ago

      There’s also upcoming solid state batteries, and maybe flow batteries if they can get the electrolyte mixture efficient.

      I am very intrigued by flow batteries. It basically behaves like a gas fuel concept. Pump some out, pump some in, charge it slowly somewhere else,. hopefully from solar and wind, or fusion haha

      • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        Flow batteries currently don’t have the kwh per kg to be competitive in EVs, but they’re great for grid storage. There are some lab advancements improving that of late, but as with all battery tech lab advancements, you shouldn’t rely on any one of them working out to mass production.

        • RedFox@infosec.pubEnglish
          11·
          9 months ago

          True, and a bummer at the moment.

          I’m hoping there’s a future efficiency gain. Like how we transitioned from nicad, to li, and now to solid?

          The concept is super cool.