• nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Who are these “christo-fascists”? I’m a big skeptical when people throw that f-word around. I might generally agree with their points but they almost always have a political ax to grind. Hence the hyperbole.

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      The Ohio Republican party just made a brazen attempt to consolidate power (and failed).

      They tried to effectively remove citizen initiatives, because the legislature doesn’t control those.

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      The overlap of people that call themselves devote christians and people that are racist and fascist is huge in America. Mind you, they call themselves christians, they don’t act like they claim.

      A while ago I saw someone flying the flags of the “Anti-Antifa” and a huge cross. Mathematically that makes them the “Fa”. If only anyone knew what that part stands for…

      P.S.: Oh and this isn’t exclusive to the US of A. Here in Germany the conservative party bears the word “christian” in their name and they have been inching closer with the neo-Nazi party AfD for years now - if not politically then at least ideologically.

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        They know, guy. Fascists have stopped being afraid of the label except in terms of scaring the “centrists,” but they don’t mind that we know they’re fascists.

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        Anti-antifa does not make one fascist. Britain and America were anti-Antifa and made sure they regained no power in the early days of the BDR. You might disagree with Western, anti-socialist and anticommunist politics, but they were decidedly not fascist.

        This is what I mean. A political ax to grind and a bunch of word games.

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          Can you give me a source regarding that claim? It is also okay if its in german. All I know is that the communist party which had ties to the soviets was the first party the U.S allowed, because it was Nazi free. A few years later the “Christian Democrats”, which were full of literal Nazis, made them illegal and continued the Nazi stuff without so much killing in Germany, they still funded the facists in Spain to continue murder people in the civil war the fascists began. People suspected to be Antifa couldn’t get jobs or had to go to prison in germany.

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      I am completely with you on the f-word being thrown around willy nilly these days, but there are a disturbing number of self proclaimed Christian nationalists in government and among the evangelical populace. Marjorie Taylor Greene is not the only politician to state this on a televised interview, but is the first one to jump out at me.

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        It’s thrown around a lot now because it’s apt. And the Republicans need to rely on it more and more as people realize the truth to the capitalist propaganda and they can’t keep in power using BS like trickle down economics. People are understanding that equality isn’t a part of what Republicans are interested in, so they need to appeal to the people who aren’t interested in equality.

        The rich are one group that benefits from inequality but are outnumbered by the poor, so that leaves people who believe in fascist ideals, like one race is better than others, or gender, or gender preference, or some other trait that means they can feel superior without needing to do anything that sets them apart.

        Which might have been at the root of why people were willing to believe that bullshit that favoured the ruling class in the first place because my own reaction to “trickle down economics” the first time I heard of it was that it was fucking stupid. I still don’t see many people pointing out that even if it did work, it implied that some people deserve the bulk of resources to pass through their hands and be used to get labour and other goods from those it “trickles down” to.

        I’d argue that the American dream itself was fascist, at least the versions that have everyone aspiring to be billionaires. The Confederacy was fascist, existing purely because they thought that some men should be able to own others outright.

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          Delusional. You may disagree with American capitalism and the plutocracy it has become. I’m inclined to agree with you to a point. None of those things are fascist.

          The far left is obsessed with fascism. Maybe it is because you are both brutal and authoritarian when you gain power.