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      Good marketing, like “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”

      And both in practice something totally else

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        Can you name a communist country that is radically different than china?

        Because I can name 20 different democratic countries that are radically different than north korea, in turn not changing the meaning of “democracy”.

        An outlier doesn’t mean the word changed its meaning.

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          It’s more like it’s impossible to name how China could be communist. They’d need a revolution or something

          I’d bet it’s not the first on the list to have it’s people take power

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            I’m saying that china + soviet union has defined and continue to define what communism is. It’s a word that’s tainted forever.

            Just like, for example, Christianity is defined by modern Christians.

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              They define the cultural idea of communism

              I hate being “that guy” tm but

              The Soviet Union only briefly played with the idea of communism before committing to a single party socialist Republic. Modern day Russia is an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat with “democracy” written on it.

              China is again, a one party state which is, in truth, a Republic. China’s historical dances with “communism” are rather similar to that of the USSR wherein an offshoot of marxist-leninism was implemented, modified and then used, ultimately landing closer… Again to a socialist Republic and now being effectively an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat… Etc. Etc.

              Neither country in my opinion ever reached the illusory “true communism”. Maybe the west is right and it’s a failed ideology, maybe “it just hasn’t had the right leader yet” but ultimately, I believe most political ideologies have good bits that we can take notes on to improve the lives of others.

              I apologize for any historical or political inaccuracies, wrote this with knowledge from the best of my memory while on the toilet at work

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                Some good info in here.

                From what you’ve said, it looks like communism has a historical tendency to become an authoritarian dictatorship, in turn redefining what ‘communism’ means to most people?

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                  I think authoritarian states typically get mislabeled very easily within modern times, especially by themselves. Some precedent I believe should exist for what I would loosely call “Stalinist” Communism, as that is what has been the most historical application of the term. But the modern Chinese state I believe would make Mao, Lenin, and even Stalin roll around in their graves by being considered Communist, and we should call a spade a spade. China is a fascist country now.