• uphillbothways@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    @Tavarin said: Sorry, but you’re still human. Enjoy the crap with the rest of us.

    ^ Exhibit A: Humans love to explain away and invalidate the sexual choices of members of their social groups. Just one way in which they are terrible with far too great of frequency.

    Wikipedia defines species thusly: “A species (pl. species) is often defined as the largest group of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction.”

    I have rejected requests to procreate with several partners (including one who became my spouse given those conditions) and had my ability to reproduce sexually removed surgically. I can no longer produce fertile offspring with other humans. But, you probably just enjoy telling people their choices are invalid and that they don’t/shouldn’t have agency over their own bodies…
    Bye.

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      11 months ago

      Sorry, you’re still human.

      Infertile members of a species are still part of that species, even if they don’t contribute to it’s continuation.

      Enjoy being human, because you are one.

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        Scary to imagine that someone out there might actually believe that if we forcibly sterilized a group of individuals, we are (not only committing a heinous and evil act, but also) removing their status as a human being.

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          Yeah, that is just absurd and downright scary logic they are trying to employ.

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          Forcibly for others is obviously unacceptable and has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about voluntarily disassociating myself from a violent and catastrophic species. You’re deranged to suggest my words contained any other insinuation.

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            11 months ago

            You didn’t need to insinuate anything intentionally.

            If you choose to define someone’s humanity as their ability to procreate… You’re already, intentionally or otherwise, laying extremely dangerous groundwork.

            The exact same kinds of reasoning people have always used to dehumanize others.

            I don’t have to assume anything about who you are in your heart to tell you that you are employing bad and dangerous logic. Maybe you’re a saint, maybe every day you do 1000 times more good than I could do in a lifetime.

            Doesn’t matter.

            It’s still bad logic.