Suspects can refuse to provide phone passcodes to police, court rules::Phone-unlocking case law is “total mess,” may be ripe for Supreme Court review.

  • sorghum@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    It’s not complicated at all. The constitution guarantees the right that no one be compelled to testify against themselves.

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      11 months ago

      It is complicated in the US because of biometrics and the wide use of contempt citations. If you “forget” your password, you can be held in contempt and jailed for up to 18 months (I missed that; last I knew it was indefinite). Biometrics and other “something you are” items can be forcibly taken (eg your fingerprints or retinal scans) with full legal backing. Your perspective, while laudable, only exists in the potential future orgs like the EFF and ACLU are fighting to create. It is very wrong today.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t understand the USA law that well, probably not a good thing because I’ve lived here my whole life, but don’t the Miranda rights say “you have the right to remain silent” and the 5th amendment says you have the right to not answer any questions that would self incriminate yourself? The police can’t legally compell a private citizen to tell them a phone passcode or anything and I think any defense lawyer would immediately call out a judge who posed the threat of contemp over this.

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          11 months ago

          IANAL. I recommend you start with the link I shared and the OP article which has a massive number of links to related cases (included the one I shared). The basics, as I understand them, is that being compelled to share a password and being compelled to give details of a crime you committed are viewed differently by the law.