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          I mostly use lightweight virtualization with containers and jails at home. I have one BHyVe VM, but I plan to eliminate virtualization completely. It’s a waste of resources for my setup.

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    I think a lot of enterprises are going to look at RHEV and Proxmox now. Broadcom will squeeze so little out of VMware thinking they can convert per seat licenses, it’s baffling to me why they decided to do this. Do all these companies want to spend $2 to make $1 all the sudden?

    Watch: in a year they’ll offload it to private equity.

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      I think a lot of enterprises are going to look at RHEV

      I don’t think so, because:

      Development of RHV has ceased and as of August 2020 the product is now only receiving maintenance updates, with extended life phase updates provided until 2026.[8] The successor to RHV is Red Hat’s OpenShift container platform.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Virtualization

      Proxmox

      I’m no expert btw, but from what I understand (from speaking with others and researching for my own homelab setup) is that LXD/Incus is now the preferred solution over Proxmox. LXD is faster, the CLI is very good, it has a huge library of ready to run Linux distro images which is convenient, and it runs on top of your favorite distro, which makes it easy to install/setup, more flexible, and more compatible (Proxmox runs an old and custom kernel, which may not be fully compatible with new hardware).

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      Watch: in a year they’ll offload it to private equity.

      and that’s the kiss of death for any company

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    Proxmox is a decent option, or just use kvm provisioning directly with ansible.

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      Proxmox is not a complete replacement for VMware. Proxmox still does not have a distributed resource scheduler or distributed power management for it’s cluster which means the only time a VM will move between nodes is if a node goes down.

      There’s no official support for VDI within proxmox and all the third party tools are janky at best, definitely not ready for enterprise level deployments.

      Nvidia does not officially support vGPUs on proxmox. You can get it working but it’s definitely not something you’d want to run on production.

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    Broadcom used to be a worthwhile company, but now their whole M.O. seems to be buying up mature solutions and price-gouging the companies that rely on those solutions. They sell off the parts they can’t price gouge with and then the solutions stagnate. They did it with CA, and again with Symantec, and now it’s VMware’s turn.

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      Broadcom’s business was making chips and this is a horizontal move into new territory. Baffling.

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    They paid $61B for it, they’re going to do everything in the book to make it back.

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    I first deployed ESX back in 2003 and from then on I was a huge fan of VMware. So, watching Broadcoms changes unfold is a little sad.

    What i really wanted to ask is, for meduim to large enterprises that want on-prem infrastructures what are their options nowadays? I don’t work in this area any more so I’m out of touch.

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    I tasked my VAR to find out what our pricing is going to look like in 2024 when our support agreement is up. They said VMware is a mess right now, do t expect a response soon. I need time to migrate and decide if I’m sticking with on-prem or moving god damn workloads to some cloud. This is a fucking shitshow. I fucking hate shareholders.

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      decide if I’m sticking with on-prem or moving god damn workloads to some cloud

      Well, if you really want to burn through a lot of money really fast, and don’t want to think of any other option at all, then yeah.

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      In my experience, Citrix offers a pretty viable alternative with xen if you want to stay on-prem

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      Move to Citrix. You can even use their cloud management system to manage your on prem infrastructure. So that’s an easy first workload to shift.

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          Maybe you’re bigger than us? I run 80k virtual desktops and it’s not bad. Yes, their workspace client is fiddly as hell, and the VDA upgrade is hard, but the platform itself is solid.

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            It’s fiddly as hell and you need to be a wizard to actually fully know your way around it. There’s so many ways to skin the cat–better hope things are documented. Their support is also beyond worthless for anything beyond buying more time with your boss for you to troubleshoot. I’ve put in a few tickets for odd issues, never had them resolve a single one. Half the time the client software updates fix one thing but break another two.

            I much prefer a VMware horizon linked clone setup for end user VDIs, issues are usually confined to one user when they happen with those in my experience. And I can just put them on a spare, then rebuild their VM with two or three clicks to cut down on troubleshooting.

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            Just curious–where are you hosting your vms? We have a handful that use azure, but most are running on prem esxi. I’m biased because I came in to nothing being documented

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                My most trouble free environments are the azure ones. Servers spin up or down based on user count. It’s not cheap though.

                Azure backups are the shit. Need to roll back to yesterday to pull a copy of a file? Log onto azure, go to backup section. Then you download an executable and get a key. Run it on your file server, and it mounts a copy of the disk as it was at backup time. So nice and easy.

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        Good god what a disaster of a company. They treat their customers as over glorified testers.

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    Is anyone really shocked? They publicly stated months ago that 70% of VMware’s profits come from Fortune 500 companies and that’s what they would focus on.

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    I saw this starting to happen around 2 years ago when they first hinted at this purchase. Instantly bought proxmox licenses (which are very cheap, by the way, in case you need help convincing some management people) for our hypervisors and haven’t looked back since. Very satisfied, very glad I’m not a VMware shop anymore.

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    We just renewed support for our socket based perpetual licences for 3 years. This gives us plenty of time to find an alternative solution.