• KISSmyOS@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hillary Clinton already ran on “I’m not Trump”. So yeah, during an entire decade, the Democrats’ only winning argument is “we’re not literally criminal fascists”.

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      Democracy involved compromise, unless you just wanted to be defeated in detail in the political arena. You may wish that boomers and their views didn’t exist, but for as long as they do, they are a reality that needs to be faced.

      If you just ignore them and push them towards the repub candidates, then it isn’t progressives that win, but republicans. Who can then do away with democracy at some point and secure their position despite dwindling demographics, in classic Realpolitik fashion.

      Gramps may not get all the nuances of the modern world, I doubt any 80+ yr old does, regardless of how good their briefings are. But he does understand why moderates are important. And he’s good at diplomacy in general.

      Yes the system sucks. This is not news to anyone already past their teenage years. It’s what we got though, and to reform it, you need progressive politicians, which will need moderates in order to win vs entrenched repubs. Reality is a bitch, and it doesn’t treat purity very well.

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        Hate to tell y’all this but there are large groups of Millennials that share the same views as the boomers everyone whines about.
        The reason the Republicans have been in charge isn’t because of any large chunk of the populace supporting them, it is because a very significant chunk does not Vote.

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            11 months ago

            gerrymandering is a means to manage those that Vote and moves the Electorate a tiny fraction which only works because so few Vote.

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          Hate to tell y’all this but there are large groups of Millennials that share the same views as the boomers everyone whines about.

          Hate to tell you this, the party’s singular contempt for younger voters has caused them to look elsewhere.

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            11 months ago

            enjoy coup2. I’m sure you’ll get along great with the Fascists being so pure and superior.

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              I’m describing the results of the party not taking younger voters seriously.

              As always, you’re pulling the “everyone to my left is all the way to my right” shit that centrists pull whenever someone points out that their messaging is garbage.

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        11 months ago

        Democracy involved compromise

        When was the last time centrists compromised with anyone to their left? All I see is centrists collaborating with the right.

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          This right here. The DNC always fights hard against the left and when negotiating with the fascists, they start from a barely acceptable compromise (at best) and give tons of concessions from there.

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            And then demand praise from progressives for the “compromise” that is capitulation in all but name.

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              Absolutely. Their (DNC leadership) policy objectives might be a lot better (in theory, if not always in practice) than those of the fascists, but they’re lying corporately owned demagogues most of the time all the same.

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        Older generations have a role in it but let’s not forget one thing, a whole lot of people much younger than the boomer generation also support the right, the boomers present at the Capitol on January 6th 2021 were the politicians, not the terrorists. The 18-35 y.o. crowd is extremely politically divided, probably more than any of the previous generations currently living.

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          This is why we have to meet each other, not as public faces talking to audiences, but where people are, where they go to talk about these things when they’re in the mood. As people just like them, maybe even that know how they feel and can still listen. It’s not like their foundational complaints aren’t legitimate.

          Places like right here. Or better yet, the structure of the Fediverse as a whole, in a more systemic way. But that’s long term goals, that won’t be ready in time.

          We have a real outside enemy now, though. Few of em. They’ve just been pursuing a divide-and-conquer strategy on us, and even began to see results. There’s not a whole lot of counters to that strategy, it’s one of the most tested and effective in all of history. There’s a few though.

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          A continuation of what he’s already done, here’s accomplishments from his third year in office only.

          What Biden Has Done: Year Three

          Got republicans to publicly take Social Security and Medicare cuts off the table

          Reduced unemployment from 18 million when he took office, down to less than 2 million now

          Banned Tik Tok on government sites

          Vaccines for tetanus, whooping cough, and shingles (costing up to $200) are now free for seniors on Medicare

          Requires utilities to remove perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl compounds (PFAS) from drinking water

          Makes $450 million available for solar farms and other clean energy projects at current or former coal mines

          732-mile high-voltage transmission line across the Western U.S. that will help transport renewable energy

          Directs federal agencies to find ways to make child care cheaper and more accessible

          IRS answered 2.4 million more taxpayer calls for assistance due to new funding

          $197 million for 100 communities across our nation to invest in wildfire resilience

          Safeguard mature and old-growth forests on federal lands, in a science-based approach to reduce wildfire risk

          Strengthen reforestation partnerships to support local economies and retain forest ecosystems and sustainable supplies of forest products for years to come

          Combat global deforestation to deliver on key COP26 commitments

          Comprehensive efforts to deploy nature-based solutions that reduce emissions and build resilience

          Added threat of detention and kidnapping to risk factors of travel warnings

          Increased consequences to terrorists who engage in the practice of kidnapping

          Rail companies grant paid sick days after administration pressure in win for unions

          $4 billion effort to electrify U.S. ports and cut emissions

          Average job creation almost double any recent president

          To date has forgiven $42 billion of student loan debt to borrowers of public service

          Record 10.5 million new business applications were filed in first two years of Biden administration

          Invests $11 billion for renewable energy in rural areas

          US is now building factories at a wildly fast rate

          Construction spending by US manufacturers more than doubled from last year

          Offered billions of dollars in subsidies in the electric vehicles, semiconductor, and solar panels industries

          Added 800,000 jobs in manufacturing in last two years to compete with countries such as China

          Got Ticketmaster and Seat Geek to dump junk fees

          The Inflation Reduction Act will provide one million solar and wind jobs by 2035

          Doubled previous all-time high of new manufacturing construction

          Continues negotiations and gets paid sick days for rail workers

          Executive order to guarantee women access to contraception - (more will need to be done to make it permanent)

          Eliminates US stockpile of chemical weapons

          Largest offshore wind project in the US

          Round 10 of student loan cancellation: $39 billion for over 800,00 borrowers

          Gets big tech commitments to voluntary follow AI guidelines (Including Google, Meta, Microsoft and Amazon)

          Stock Market gains in 2023 are the best in decades

          Creates Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon National Monument - One million acres

          Construction of manufacturing facilities in real terms (adjusted for inflation) has more than doubled since 2021

          Launches “Saving on a Valuable Education” (SAVE): An income-driven repayment plan cutting borrowers’ payments in half, and some with no monthly bill

          Creates bilateral collaboration helping Vietnam develop high tech in semiconductor production and artificial intelligence, countering Chinese efforts to do the same in the region

          $800 Million to Strengthen Rural Infrastructure and Create Jobs

          Round 11 of student debt forgiveness: 12,000 Wisconsinite Student Loans Forgiven

          Siemens Kenosha factory to produce solar using tax incentives and will create a half million clean energy jobs

          Suspends Trump-era authorization to ship natural gas by rail

          Cancels oil and gas leases in Alaskan wildlife refuge that were allowed by Trump administration

          Restores power of states and tribes to review projects to protect waterways

          Creates 9-state offshore wind supply chain pact while funding $72m towards manufacturing

          American Climate Corps launched

          DOD to review DADT discharges

          At-home COVID tests return

          EPA announces $4.6B climate grants

          TPS redesignated for Venezuela, protecting additional 450k migrants

          $37M University of Phoenix debt forgiven

          EO for East Palestine recovery

          Prohibits Americans from investing in some Chinese companies

          Directs Agencies to Account for Climate Change in Budgets

          Creates new office of gun violence prevention

          Commits $200 million to reintroduce salmon in Columbia River

          $230 million for suicide prevention and behavioral are programs for at risk communities

          Cuts funding to college programs leaving grads with unaffordable loans and/or low pay

          All schools must provide prospective students with a framework outlining actual costs to get a degree and financial outcomes students can expect

          Today’s announcement brings the total approved debt cancellation by the Biden-Harris Administration to $127 billion for nearly 3.6 million Americans.

          Round 12 of student loan forgiveness of $5.2 billion bring total to $127 billion

          Updated federal prevailing wage for first time in decades, raising wages by thousands of dollars

          During very tense times, visits Israel and gets them allow humanitarian aid to Gaza

          Creates the largest ever offshore windfarm of Virginia’s coast

          Supports UAW strike resulting in a 30% increase of wages

          October economics report shows stunning improvement

          —34th consecutive month of job growth (150,000 jobs in October)

          —Longest stretch of unemployment below 4% since the 1960s

          —GDP surged this past quarter 5% (seasonally adjusted)

          —Federal Reserve announces interest rates are holding steady

          —Auto Strike over! Workers get substantial pay raises (30%)

          Eliminates co-payments, enrollment fees and monthly premiums for WWII veterans

          Climate Corps sees 42,000 sign-ups since inception

          Establishes White House Initiative on Women’s Health Research

          Reestablishes open and direct communication with China

          Brokers deal with Israel & Hamas for release of hostages

          Brokers deal to allow Humanitarian aid into Gaza

          Child poverty rates fall from 12.6% to 5.8% due to Biden’s Expanded Child Tax Credits

          2.9 million kids escape poverty

          Another 813,000 people have their student loan debt wiped out

          Supply chain backlogs are now at the lowest levels in 25 years.

          Inflation is at the lowest rate since Biden took office early 2021

          New small business applications continue at record rates: https://i.redd.it/ppmxb6z0bq3c1.png

          Delivered largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt

          Delivered the largest infrastructure plan since Eisenhower

          Confirmed the most judges since Kennedy

          Delivered with Obama the second-largest healthcare bill since Johnson

          • delivered the largest climate change bill in history