• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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      11 months ago

      Then why is every instance I’ve seen completely or almost completely unfederated?

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        11 months ago

        Which instances have you looked at? Most of the big instances federate with others. Except for Tilvids.com. You can still subscribe to other channels though.

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          11 months ago

          This is not true at all:

          Why? Well, let’s look at the top servers. The first hit is a French server, with mostly French and European content. The first US hit is bestgore.fun, which based on its name alone, I would exactly call quality content. The next one is swebbtv.se, which claims to be in the US, but is clearly a Swedish server, and immediately assaults you with a donation screen when you go to the first page. It also does not have any federation.

          The next US one is phijkchu.com, which appears to be somebody’s personal instance with just their videos? It also doesn’t have a lot of federation. Then there’s pony.tube, which appears to be mostly My Little Pony content?

          You have to go pretty far down the list to find something like diode.zone, and even its federated list is only 25 or so instances.

          What do you define as “big instances”?

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            11 months ago

            I would recommend you use this list: https://instances.joinpeertube.org

            You should use an instance that has enabled global search and uses https://search.joinpeertube.org/. This way, you can find content, even though the instances is not federated.

            Also, TILvids and Blender Videos are instances for specific videos, for “general purpose” instances to follow. Most of the above instances also use very old versions of PeerTube. We are at verison 6.0 now. So I think they might be inactive, therefore not following more instances.

            Here’s an instance that does follow spectra.video > https://peertube.wtf (my instance), but I also only follow a select few instances, because there is a lot of crap being uploaded to the videoverse and that just makes for a worse experience.

            There is nothing however that would keep you from searching for or following any channel, on peertube.wtf because global search is enabled.

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              Here’s an instance that does follow spectra.video > https://peertube.wtf (my instance), but I also only follow a select few instances, because there is a lot of crap being uploaded to the videoverse and that just makes for a worse experience.

              That’s also Sean’s experience with administrating Spectra.video. And that’s one of the main problems, isn’t it?

              With Lemmy, the posts are well-moderated and most of the good content bubbles up to the top, on the highest-populated servers. Both community moderation and instance moderation are working well. Everybody is federated with almost everybody else because, with only a few exceptions, the community is healthy and thriving.

              With PeerTube, there’s so much random crap being uploaded, with no real community-based moderation (like upvoting). The top servers are either European politics, non-English content, or gore-related. There’s also a lot of people that are more concerned with using PeerTube as a backup outlet than actually serving content to users.

              There is nothing however that would keep you from searching for or following any channel, on peertube.wtf because global search is enabled.

              That doesn’t tie into the home or discover videos page, though. Any random user that wonders into YouTube might be searching for something specific, or might just be clicking on random videos on the home page. Eventually, YouTube customizes the content to fit the user’s tastes. I don’t even have to specifically look at my subscriptions. The main home page already gives me good recommendations.

              If PeerTube is going to take off as a YouTube replacement, it needs to find a way to keep new users from immediately clicking away when they browse the home/discover pages.