To my knowledge, the concept of “conservatism” is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don’t agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any “values” in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it’s wrong and that’s it. There’s no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn’t care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical “immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil” speech.

  • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    That’s not what I’m saying either.

    TJD has their own issues and they’re already on thin ice with regards to their account because of their overly aggressive behavior.

    To be fair, I don’t think you’ve stooped to their level, which I do appreciate.

    I deleted yours, not to censor what you said, but so that you wouldn’t keep getting aggressive replies from them or someone else because the whole place was a complete disaster.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      11 months ago

      I blocked them immediately after reporting them. It’s such empty shitty behavior it didn’t even invite a riposte. I’ll bicker with randos over any damn thing, apparently, but when it’s just directed abuse built on nothing but ‘nuh uh,’ that’s not an argument. And if I’m not permitted to tell them where to shove it and why then the list of options is short.

      … also, once a parent comment has been deleted, the entire subthread effectively ceases to exist. Lemmy software has issues.

      • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        11 months ago

        Good on you for blocking them.
        As for them, I’ve warned them and I don’t have infinite patience.
        I do believe they can get their shit together and manage their anger.
        If not, well… there’s a button for that.

        … also, once a parent comment has been deleted, the entire subthread effectively ceases to exist

        Yea, I think it makes more sense the way it’s shown when you’re an admin:

        (The collapsed thread is our current discussion.)