• Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Alabama police shoot, kill MURDER 16-year-old during pre-dawn raid over ALLEGED drug paraphernalia and marijuana possession having some dried plants.

    FTFY…Also, fuck this fucking country.

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        You don’t think that the offending officer was sporting wood on the convoy to the raid location thinking about all the possible killing that was about to occur? Because I think he was.

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        He went there armed and trained looking for someone in particular, ready to use deadly force. Take away the badge and you’d have a murder charge

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          Take away the badge and you’d have a murder charge

          This is literally what police are. They’re citizens we grant extra power to.

          The issue here is that they’re using the power inappropriately.

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        Murder is premeditated.

        First-Degree Murder

        • Premeditated, intentional killings (like stalking someone before murdering them)

        • Capital Crimes or Felony Murder

        Second-Degree Murder

        • An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry)

        • A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life

        I’m not really sure if you are simply ignorant or being intentionally disingenuous. Either way, you are wrong. There are different counts & legal standards for those counts specifically because of the fact that not all murder is premeditated.

        https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/difference-between-first-second-degree-murder/

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        Yes, and?

        When you are a group of people who are empowered to use deadly force the moment you feel your life is threatened even when you are the ones who created the threatening situation, and you choose to bash in someone’s door at 5:30 AM, “to conduct a search warrant for drug paraphernalia and marijuana possession” you have to know that you are likely going to be shooting someone that day, because if someone awakens to their door bashing in at that time of day, regardless of whether they have anything to be found by the cops, the fact that some cops “announced” themselves unheard while they were sleeping isn’t going to stop many people from arming themselves and confronting the threat.

        Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend was acquitted for just this reason.

        It’s not fucking clairvoyance, it’s common sense. If you don’t opt for a plan where that outcome is less likely, you’ve gone there with intent to murder as far as I’m concerned.

        • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
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          I don’t think it would count as premeditated unless the cop went there specifically with the intention to kill that child.

          However, it would still qualify for 2nd degree murder which requires intent to harm, but not premeditation.

          I am not a lawyer, I just have access to google. I found this. If any of you actually know what you’re talking about feel free to correct me