• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    but have you tried being poor in America?

    … have you?

    Jesus Christ.

    I live well-under the poverty line. It’s bad. I also know it’s nowhere near as bad as an average existence in Cuba.

    Read up. Read personal accounts. Check economic statistics.

    Just by living in the US, we are immensely fucking privileged.

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Depends on what your judging life by. For health and economic security living in Cuba is better then being poor in the u.s. life expectancy for Cuba and the u.s. are even, and life expectancy in the US is heavily dependent on income, so your average Cuban is living maybe 10 years more than someone in the US living under poverty.

      If your judging life by political freedom and economic mobility , then yeah living in poverty in the US is better.

      Yeah by economic statistics you’re “richer” if your in the bottom fifth of the US compared to cuba but you aren’t paying half your income to rent in cuba and you won’t be ruined by medical debt if you get sick.

        • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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          18 hours ago

          The average American thinks the USA is the greatest nation on the planet and that Americans are the most fortunate people on the planet. You’re expressing internalized propaganda. Living in poverty in the USA is not better than living in poverty anywhere else, and is in fact a lot worse due to lack of infrastructure, crushing wealth disparity of historic magnitude, and the absolute abandonment of socialism. A poor person in a socialist country still has all their needs met. A poor person in the USA is an object lesson who is made to suffer hunger, homelessness, and lack of medical care to keep the rest of the workers in line.

          You’re living in a fantasy.

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            15 hours ago

            The average American thinks the USA is the greatest nation on the planet and that Americans are the most fortunate people on the planet.

            Recognizing that being impoverished in a prosperous and developed country is better than being impoverished in an economically struggling country is not propaganda. America is not the best place to be poor, but it isn’t the worst, and the self-pitying idea that being poor in the US is as bad as or worse than being poor in any country is some utterly ignorant shite.

            A poor person in a socialist country still has all their needs met.

            Do you really know nothing about living standards in Cuba?

            You’re living in a fantasy.

            How ironic.

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            15 hours ago

            If you’re incapable of utilising the massive amount of capital residing in the USA, then I assume you’re an imbecile.

            The country is a tax haven. Vast amount of opportunities.

            Do I like my country more? Of course I do, but god damn I’m getting sick and tired of all these Americans thinking their country is bad.

            You’re with 230 million adults in a country the size of Europe. Of course it’s gonna be spread out.

            Median net wealth in the EU is lower than in USA (77k Vs 112k USD). PPP it’s about the same.

            Europe’s for people who prefer stability. USA is for people that prefer volatile growth and crashes.