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I don't love free wargear (because there will inevitably better or worse options when everything is a straight swap whereas with points cost you can balance finely), but I can see that it makes life easier.

Fixed unit sizes, however, are supremely shit. All in all totally ripped the variety out of list building, which was one of my favourite things about the game. Lists now will look mostly identical.

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[–] MerfMerf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely not a fan of fixed unit sizes.

Free wargear I'm a bit more undecided on. I like just getting to kit to the teeth, and using options that usually are rarely worth the point cost. I also like that it is just simpler/quicker... Buuut, as tyere will be objectively better options that will always get picked and I don't like not being able to just remove some equipment to fit a point limit and instead have to change whole units. The building blocks become much bigger, meaning list composition ends up more rigid which I don't quite like.

[–] theDeck@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing about free wargear is that it's not actually that much simpler. You still have to decide which piece you're taking. The only thing they removed was the cost consideration of what you pick.

[–] GaryPonderosa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It is simpler. Instead of having to decide between an AP5 weapon or an AP2 weapon that's more expensive but otherwise identical, now you just take the AP2 weapon because it's objectively better than the AP5 weapon.

In this case simpler is not better.

[–] theDeck@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it'll actually work out fine in the gameplay, but it makes list building much less fun.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There's also the aspect of kitbashing models because they don't have an official model. Some of my best models where kitbashed because GW didn't have a Khorn Lord with chain axe riding a Juggernaut and it was fucking terrifying to have 17 rending attacks on the charge.