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"How do I become more informed on your quadrant?" (lemmy.world)

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, I'll help you.

It's always come very naturally to me.

For instance I assume you understand that you're clearly implying something with your comment. Something which I might disagree with. Communication is so hard that I forget, what is it called again, when two people are talking and have diverging views on the thing they're talking about? I'm sure there's a word for that...

[–] Val@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OK fine. I was going to leave it at that but if you're going to keep going then so am I.

I'm going to use a code block because I don't want to worry about formatting.

lets begin with the full context.

The post has the title of "How do I become more informed on your quadrant?" 
with a political compass depicting common responses that people in those
quadrants have to that question. 

You responded to the post with a comment: 'All just versions of "do your own research", [..]'
Naturally, as I am a person on the original meme who would respond like the meme says
I took slight offense to this. I attempted to voice that offense with a question
"How else would you reply to someone wanting to know more about a topic?"
I then followed it up with other thoughts I had because I like making comments that are 
more than just one thing.

You quote responded with "By making a coherent argument?" which lead me to write the
beginning of my response "That's only if you take everything in the internet as an argument."
This is because if someone asked me the question the title of the post is asking I wouldn't 
consider that an argument and rather point them towards someone who can communicate
better than me. (I think this thread shows exactly why. Although I believe this is partly your
fault as well) 

From here the conversation devolves in a way that is quite hard to tell what's going on so I'm
not going to bother giving a detailed description but there are points I want to touch on. 

Like you saying you're not acting hostile. I don't think that's up to you to say.
Sure your intentions may not be hostile but how someone else interprets the way you talk
is up to them. Maybe I am "reading into it" but there clearly is something to read into.

I admit the point I said about arguments don't make much sense. Technically they were arguments
and I think I'm just wrong. But the point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't frame everything
as an argument.

But this last comment definitely feels at least a little mean. And I used to think it comes naturally
to me too but if your not understanding me then apparently not.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like you saying you're not acting hostile. I don't think that's up to you to say.

It most definitely is. People have a tendency to project emotions on to neutral text, and projecting negative emotions is much more common. There's zero malice or hostility in my comments. I know this because I don't feel any while writing this, so any perceived hostility is just that... a perception. A flawed perception. An understandable one for which I don't judge anyone, but still a misperception.

how someone else interprets the way you talk is up to them

Ofc it is. But what I mean is not. Here's a very relayed video.

Why German sounds so aggressive.

"How else would you reply to someone wanting to know more about a topic?"

I say "by making a coherent argument", but it would've been better if I had said "by using good rhetoric". It's just less colloquial, so I went with "argument". I think most people still got the context though. As in the context of "the internet is filled with arguments and too often people confuse valid rhetoric and just linking an URL."

"Do your own research" practically always come from people who have watched long videos on some controversial subject like the Earth being flat instead of an oblate spheroid, buy into it, but then aren't able to produce an iota of rhetoric to relay any of the arguments they've bought into.

No, ofc not everything is an argument. I'm pretty sure you also knew that I actually know that.

[–] Val@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I definitely understand that people have a tendency to project negativity into words directed at them. I guess now I have first-hand experience.

But I think I've had enough of this conversation. Thank you for a nice chat. Goodbye.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for being open to what I said, despite not liking the tone you perceived.

A sign of a mature person indeed.

Thank you as well, enjoy your day/night.