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Incredible results, and I really love seeing the progress pictures! Thank you for sharing!

Is there any advice you would give to someone following your footsteps here?

I supported a pre-emptive Threads defederation, because I expect them to Embrace-Extend-Extinguish the fediverse for the sake of profit.

For the BBC, I don’t feel as overtly opposed. They don’t really have the user base to overextend us with, even if they tried to get their audience on mastodon lol. They haven’t seemed blatantly profit driven in the past. And they’re starting their own instance, using fediverse tech.

Does anyone think this is the BBC’s Embrace step? It’s not sparking any alarm bells for me, but can I get a sanity check?

Here’s their accounts, for the curious:

@BBCRD

@BBC5Live

@BBCRadio4

@BBCTaster

@Connected_Studio

@BBC_News_Labs

Oooh, I’m excited to try this out! But later, 'cause I’m just on mobile, and kbin doesn’t have a save function yet lol.

Ohh, like they’re kind of a foam material? That makes sense.

Somehow I was imagining you’d found round sponges hahah. Show us more of your stuff! : )

Wow, I’m pretty impressed with BC for this.

Having font support really legitimizes a language. It’s basically impossible to make digital content if you can’t type in your language, so this is really unlocking a lot for the readers and writers of all those languages!

Oooh! What are they made from??

Lmao that’s hilarious. I see the switch, what’s he playing??

How much of this is printed vs your conversion? It’s really creative lol.

Ohh, just realized you’re the guy that posted the yellow meganobz the other week! Okay, I’m gonna plug (!orks/@orks) here 'cause I’d love to see more of your stuff!

Lol I thought there was a filter on the image before I read about the print lines.

This looks great! I love how much terrain is around, the setting really tells a story. Keep doing what you’re doing!

Idk if lemmy does this, but kbin.social lets you edit the post title!

Huh. We can basically assume none of these profiles are “balanced” because otherwise they would just be tournament legal.

And I expect the vast majority of it to be strong. Why do all this work just for people to be disappointed the few times they try it?

So… this is for specifically pre-10th players facing other pre-10th players, or for pre-10th players facing opponents who don’t know or care about game balance lol. Eh.

I would have preferred they release tournament legal profiles with a prescribed proxy list.

It’s really scary that I opened kbin to this and it’s EXACTLY 5:37 lmao.

Hmm interesting. I do think it’s just as important that we double-defederate unfortunately. Meta/Threads has to be treated as if it’s contagious.

If we stay federated with an instance that has accepted the Embrace, what do we do when the Extend happens? Is that when we defederate? Will we even recognize it?

EEE only works because it’s difficult to see it happening to you. Instances that ally with Meta/Threads will actually present the same threat of EEE, or even a greater threat, because the Extend step may appear to come from non-Meta instances.

Imagine ActivityPub upgrades developed by a Meta/Threads-ally, let’s say improved inter-instance moderator tools. That sounds good right?

It’s basically all the exact same arguments again, but with a middle man.

• Meta/Threads have different foundational priorities (namely, profit) and real incentives to monopolize.
• Meta-ally instances have real and implied incentives to accommodate
  Meta/Threads.
• And we have incentives to accommodate the instances that we federate with, so of course kbin would use the well-developed new mod tools right?
• Seems crazy not to, even if it was developed by a Meta-ally. Right?
• Great! Repeat for thousands of tiny changes, that’s called Extend.

That’s how accepting EEE works, each little step looks great but big picture we’re unknowingly in trouble. We’ll have to treat any Meta/Threads-ally as if it is Meta/Threads. (Hell, some of them probably will be lol, the fediverse is just asking for astroturfing lol.)

We can trust instances that don’t have economic incentives. But any instance that shows they can be swayed by money, or that shows they’ll accommodate instances driven by profit, well they’re showing that they’d consider eating us to become the next reddit.