TIL that some real boomers are on this site. 😛

I was born 99.

If I had to guess on why people get issues during updates I’d say it’s because they add a million third-party repos that point to the specific version of Debian they were running and now that they’ve upgraded they’ve got tons of outdated packages from those repos fudging up their system.

Cinnamon is actively maintained wdym by outdated?

I use Debian as my main distro. Ive played with stable, testing, and unstable over the past few years. I’m confident Trixie is perfectly fine for stable. It looked fine the last few months I used it in testing.

If old stable didn’t impress you, Trixie isn’t gonna be any different. The hype is just because a release happened, we don’t get those in Debian land very often.

At worst, I’d say it’s a neutral change. Even the scenarios you’ve outlined are better than the alternative. But the truth is, we won’t know until we know. Simple as that.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think they are a communist utopia either, and I think people get carried away hyping them up. I just don’t think arguing about it is a hill worth dying on.

If you move to Linux, you gotta be committed. I didn’t learn Linux until I said “fuck it” and forced myself to use it exclusively.

You will run into problems. You’ll have some days where you’ll spend 10hrs fixing something that no other person on the entire planet has encountered before, only to realize you needed to type in 1 very simple command to fix it.

As much as people hate AI, it can help with Linux troubleshooting. There’s also wikis and manpages.

If you switch at all, pick something that won’t break. Debian will run on your hardware just fine. You won’t have the latest and greatest packages, and as a newbie you DO NOT WANT the latest and greatest.

Nvidia drivers are a hassle, be prepared.

If all that sounds doable, send it.

It will crash if you max out your ram and have 0 swap, in the same way your windows system will crash if you have 0 page file.

In recent years its become really trendy to just not use swap on linux and it pisses me off to no end. Its a horrible configuration all to save like 1% of your diskspace.

edit: Also, most distros out of the box do use significantly less than windows. My debian testing xfce install that I just did here a few days ago uses 700mb on a cold boot.

Even among leftists, the AES countries are a sore subject. Most leftcoms, libcoms, trots, hoxhaists, and maoists are critical of places like the DPRK (if they don’t just outright reject them in their entirety.)

I know most people aren’t watching 4k. I loaded 4k because it used more memory. I agree it’s not a realistic workload for someone with a 4gb laptop.

Sorry if I was grouchy.

1. Vencord is running in the background.
2. Most people aren’t watching YouTube in 4k on their computer
3. I have a good bit of stuff cached in memory (as shown by the different colors in htop)

My system uses under 4gb watching a 4k video on youtube. I can’t imagine many people are doing anything much more intensive than that.

You also have to prove you make 2x rent, sometimes 3x rent in order to actually qualify for an apartment (alot of us create fake paystubs for this) :)

We also will have a deposit that is usually 2-3x rent that we are supposed to get back when we move out. However every time this happens the landlords conveniently find damage to the property that didn’t exist the day you moved out so you don’t ever get that money back (or if you do, you only get 25-50% of it). :)

At the place I just moved out of, there was a roach infestation that the landlords refused to hire a pro to take care of that got entirely out of hand. They are holding my deposit for this. :)

You also aren’t allowed to have anyone stay over longer than 3 days if they aren’t on the lease without prior approval from the landlord. :)

Edit: Sometimes people have to get renters insurance too. :)

As long as it looks good, whatever.

I’m a big big fan of Debian. The installer can be a little intimidating for newbies but I think it’s a great all-around “throw it at the wall” kinda Linux distro. Ubuntu is based on it so you’ll find similarities between them.

All the power to ya! Doesn’t matter if it’s Stable, Testing, or Unstable, if it works for you that’s all that matters.

There is a way to “pin” package versions isn’t there?

I wonder if that would prevent this kind of thing from uninstalling a package that is in transition. Ofc, it wouldn’t get any updates, but I’d take that over just not having the package.

Flatpak works though!

Debians testing branch might be a good shout. Packages stay pretty up-to-date and usually stuff doesn’t break. Worst case you can pull a package from unstable when needed.

I think linux distros are a coinflip on if they like your hardware or not, sometimes it feels like they just don’t like you individually as a person.

When I use fedora for example, everything that can go wrong does go wrong. It’s in theory not any more complicated than debian, but I’ve never had good luck keeping a fedora system healthy.

With Debian, usually the best troubleshooting tip I can give people is try installing testing instead of stable. Sometimes the kernel in stable is just too damn old for the hardware you want to install on.

The best thing you can do is just never center white people. 99.999% of the time that’s the wrong way to frame your argument.

I fully understood what you were trying to say, but I can’t say the responses you got are at all that surprising either.

In the extremely unlikely event that indigenous people got direct executive control over what happens in the continental united states, I don’t think they’d even want the mass exodus of all white people. Nor do I think they’d want full cultural assimilation. My entire life, the prevailing narrative has always just been the end of systemic oppression. Very frequently I’ve heard indigenous rights activists demand the free use of/free travel across land for things like hunting, which is a pretty small ask. Just because this or that action would be justified, doesn’t mean it’s the action people want. IMO the second minority ethnic groups feel safe and represented these kinds of mass exodus narratives will fade away. Doubly so if there was a transition to socialism that went with it, and some thought went into identifying the different national identities (so something akin to a soviet of nationalities could be formed).