I’m sorry to be pedantic but this is a pet peeve of mine. If you bought a house you would not have any mortgage payment. You (and everyone else usually) are talking about financing a house.

Maybe I’m the crazy one but when I buy something I like to look at the total amount that I’m paying for it.
If I wanted a house listed for $300,000 5-years ago and I wanted to finance it, the rate might have been 3% so the total amount I would be paying would be $455,332.36 over 30yrs. Therefore I would only finance if I thought ~$450,000 was a fair price. If I thought the house was only worth $300,000 then I would need to pay in cash.

Today rates are at 7% so a house listed at $300,000 actually costs $718,526.69 when financed. Do I think the houses I see listed for $300,000 are worth over $700,000? No. Do I have more than $300,000 needed to afford to pay in cash? Also no. Therefore, I’m not buying.
*These calculations are ignoring the down payment but the principle is still valid.

They ASK overworked people to do this for FREE. Not the duplicating part though, that would be very expensive in most cases and require its own funding.

Where’s my boy Doug?

If they’re going to get the same suspension either way, they might as well…

I believe that was Norway.

Damn, I like The Smiths, Radiohead, Joy Division, Nine Inch Nails, Pavement, and Weezer. Somehow I managed to cover the whole board.

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Yes it sounds like everything worked out great for you. Good job on timing your investment! But this is a perfect example of the type of financialization of the housing market that I’m against. You used leverage to buy an expensive, risky asset and sold it for a profit just a few years later. This doesn’t always work out so well (ask anyone who bought a house in 2007) and I don’t want to put essentially all my savings into a wallstreetbets style gamble just so I can have somewhere to sleep at night.

I’m not saying mortgages should completely go away. I’m sure a mortgage is the right decision for many people’s situations. It’s just the way that people talk about buying a house, a mortgage seems to be assumed. If it wasn’t just assumed then maybe people would put more thought into whether they want to save for a larger down payment (or the full price) or whether they want to pay $750,000 for a $400,000 house.
I don’t know, maybe people see these numbers and think its a great deal. All I see is a bank making a huge amount of money from me that I would rather keep for myself. Also, if people stopped stretching their budget to the absolute limit with financing nonsense (3% down, variable rate loans, rate buydowns), in aggregate there would be less demand for houses at these high prices and sellers would have to start accepting lower offers.

Your partner wants to finance a house someday. I know I’m on the losing side of this battle but I really wish people would stop associating BUYING a house with taking out a LOAN from a bank.

It just feels like people are only deceiving themselves by saying “I need good credit to buy a house” when what they really mean is “I need good credit so I can take on a lot of debt and pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest over the next 30 years.”

That’s a good point. But the US is not offering this same path to citizenship to anyone willing to buy a house in rural Alabama. I assumed these visa programs were aimed at attracting wealthy foreigners which is why the US has something similar for anyone willing to invest $800K in a commercial enterprise. That’s why I was curious if $263K is considered relatively wealthy in Greece and could buy a house even in desirable areas. The fact that apparently this is not the case makes the goals of this program unclear.

“Greece’s golden visa program requires a minimum investment of approximately $263,000 (€250,000) in real estate.”
Is that enough to buy an average house? Is the economy still this bad over there?

Rock Auto? Probably have to wait more than 2 days for your order to arrive though.

Float around and find out

I like your characterization of Musk as “the flavor flav of Tesla”. He is or tries to be a hype man, a personality, capable of creating a cult of personality. He hired engineers and workers and told them to build things he wanted. The solutions those people created to his (and the other members of the board of directors) demands are what Tesla became. I’m not convinced he knows anything about running a company (Twitter).

Thanks for the reply. So you spend about 17% of your income on housing. (assuming 5k is the total for all three). Some people are currently looking at spending 25-30% of their income or more on housing just to get the cheapest houses available. Imagine if you had to spend 9000 each month just to be able to live in one house and maybe you can understand why some people are upset.

If you meant 5000 each for the three houses then hopefully the two not currently owner-occupied are either being rented out or generating equity through appreciation. Therefore they function more as an investment asset than a primary residence.

“Tesla Motors was incorporated on July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. Eberhard and Tarpenning served as CEO and CFO, respectively.” “Tesla’s first car, the Roadster, was officially revealed to the public on July 19, 2006.”

"The Prius was developed by Toyota to be the “car for the 21st century; it was the first mass-produced hybrid vehicle, first going on sale in Japan in 1997 at all four Toyota Japan dealership chains, and subsequently introduced worldwide in 2000.”

I will concede that Musk may have made some marketing decisions that contributed to the popularity of Tesla cars vs other brands but I do not believe that “Without Elon we wouldn’t have a viable electric car industry.” If there is money to be made in a business then someone will inevitably step in to fill the market niche. That’s a core tenant of how capitalism is supposed to promote the efficient use of resources.

Also, I’m not sure who the “we” in your comment is referring to. I personally do not have any type of car industry, viable or not. Are you suggesting that US car manufactures should be nationalized and owned collectively by all citizens?

Furthermore, I do not support electric cars as a major contribution to the solution to climate change.

One problem is that housing affordability is currently at or near record lows.

https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/housing-affordability-conditions-tumble-in-october-2023

“A mortgage is affordable if the mortgage payment (principal and interest) amounts to 25% or less of the family’s income.”

What percent of your family’s income do you pay (or have paid in the past) for the principle and interest on your mortgage?
Since your high income gives you some flexibility in choosing a housing situation I’m curious how much of your income you decided to allocate to this expense.

Brazil

I don’t have any evidence for this but it seems like the vaccine pushback is at least partially a desire to avoid responsibility. If they choose to vaccinate and their kid is in the 0.000001% who experience adverse effects then it would be their fault the kid was hurt but if they don’t vaccinate and their kid just happens to die of measles or whatever then it was all part of god’s plan and they didn’t do anything wrong.