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Unbelievable that you’re being talked down to and told you don’t know what you’re talking about when you’re literally an Israeli with family that survived the holocaust. It’s so upsetting seeing people call you a Nazi for living in Israel when you have family that suffered because of them. I don’t see people on this site circlejerking about how awful Palestinians are when Hamas does something bad. So why do I constantly see people circlejerking about how awful Israelis are when their government does something bad? I’m sorry you have to deal with this trash. It’s gross.

Yea fuck these Nazis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapoel_Hatzair

I don’t like thinking hard so I just generalize an entire group of people and call them Nazis. Anyone who supports Palestine are Hamas agents. Do you not see how dumb that sounds? If you cared to read both Palestinian and Israeli history you would know both sides are filled with good and bad people. Calling all Zionists Nazis is such a giant fuck you to the thousands of Jews who immigrated to Israel and were very vocal about pacifism and coexistence. Tribalism is wrong, knock it off.

After spending some time reading the history of Zionism, I find your characterization of them dishonest. There’s tons of early Zionists that preached pacifism and coexistence. Here’s one of many examples https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._D._Gordon

This is the very first line in the book “Der Judenstaat” by Theodor Herzl, considered to be the father of modern Zionism starting with this book. “The idea which I have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the restoration of the Jewish State.” Herzl simply renewed the idea in modern times, so many websites will list him as the start. However, a little digging into Jewish history and you will find Zionism is a very old idea.

Yes my horrible ideology of citing a peer reviewed science article published by the national library of medicine lmao. Science is a capitalist and imperialist conspiracy!!1!1

If westernism is a disease which region is the cure professor Tank

This has happened before. One specific movement started then, but the idea is very old https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Zion

I have literally no idea how Jewish communities sharing specific DNA linking them to the levant has anything to do with white supremacy, or how that makes me a white supremacist. Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE. Are all scientists that study genetics racist? Where are you getting this from and why are you so angry about it?

In the article it says US intelligence got the information from 3 sources but doesn’t mention who are what these sources are

Uh no, Zionism is not a Christian idea. It’s been an idea long before Christianity was even around. I’m flabbergasted that you called me a white supremacist for stating a fact. Ethiopian and Ashkenazi Jews could very well share DNA linking them back to the original Jewish diaspora.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2017/03/21/beta-israel-reconsidered-defending-israelite-ancestry-ethiopian-jews/

“As the BBC reports, the study suggests that “Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.” Professor Chris Tyler-Smith, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, told the BBC: “By analyzing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba.” Note that the study does not contradict the 2007 work by Entine or other historical evidence. The results suggest that Israelites-Jews entered the region 3,000 years ago, but they were not necessarily consolidated as a group until about 1,500 years ago. Also, note the study does not necessarily confirm the biblical story of affair between Queen Sheba of ancient Ethiopia and king Solomon of ancient Israel.”

Here’s another

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/

“By principal component analysis, it was observed that the Jewish populations of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East formed a tight cluster that distinguished them from their non-Jewish neighbors (Fig. 1). Within this central cluster, each of these Jewish populations formed its own subcluster, in addition to the more remote localization of members of some Diaspora communities. The observation of a major central tight cluster was supported by statistical metrics for genetic distances (Fst, allelic sharing distances).”

With all this said, even if Ethiopian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are not actually genetically related, they still get targeted the same whether they practice Judaism or not.

Several different locations were considered at first. I think the levant was chosen because it renders the “go back where you came from” argument moot since they’d be living in the area they originated from.

I wish we knew more about where exactly these reports are coming from. I don’t trust Hamas or Israel in their reporting on the matter. Al Jazeera has Hamas ties and our American government has Israel ties so I’m skeptical of them too. Israel is being far too aggressive but Hamas isn’t exactly the most honest adversary. What a mess.

It takes like 10 minutes of googling to see Zionism is an umbrella term for multiple different schools of thoughts. People are turning it into some slur when at its core it’s the belief that Jews have a right to a state. Keep in mind that Jews are both a race and a religion.

So what would have happened if the Arab nations had won? Do you not see the irony here? The Jews paid for the land legally before declaring their independence. This is fact I can back it up with evidence. Muslim rulers were scared of the possibility of a majority Jewish nation because of how horrible Jews were treated under muslim rule. I can provide a list of all the massacres and pogroms committed against Jews in muslim countries throughout history. The list is staggering. Jews were classified as dhimmi under muslim rule and had to pay an extortion tax as well as being barred from using several of their own holy sites. You can’t attempt an ethnic cleansing on a people and then when it fails cry “ethnic cleansing!” when they return the same behavior they’ve been dealing with for 1000s of years.

If you declare war and lose, you can’t just go “lol oopsie we didn’t really mean it” and expect nothing to happen. When has the loser in any war not experienced repercussions?

Where in my comment did I say that lol

Ya got the date wrong. Nakba happened in 1948 when multiple Arabic nations declared war on Israel after they announced their independence.

If they spent just a fraction of their time reading a book about the region rather than screeching about the current conflict I think they’d be singing a different tune. I have found exactly one instance of Palestinian expulsion prior to the Arab nations declaration of war in 1948. The Deir Yassin massacre, which if you actually read the Wikipedia article on it, it provides evidence of the majority of Jews condemning the attack and even some helping the Palestinians. The person responsible for the attack even said he was told by his commanding officer that civilians were not to be harmed. All land acquisition prior to 1948 was legal. I can provide mounds and mounds of evidence proving it. You can condemn modern day Israel without parroting antisemitic lies.

They were so good at stealing that they gave the original owners financial compensation for the land and then stole it right under their noses… even took pictures of it those crooks… https://imgur.io/5fYx5Ud

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