you’re misinterpreting that list, it is not exhaustive - it’s a list of banking apps which someone has tried and updated the list. the lack of a specific country or bank on that list doesn’t mean it doesn’t work, it means nobody has tested it, or nobody has added it to the list, at least

The bank doesn’t need to manually support GrapheneOS, the app just needs to behave appropriately - which, as you can see from that list, the overwhelming majority of them do.

If my bank stops supporting it, then I will move banks. But I doubt it will ever really become an issue.

i’m a person with bills to pay, but if i paid those bills by endangering people, i’d be a bad person.

corporations exist to protect people from the financial and legal repercussions of their business activity.

they should not exist, and so, I will celebrate if Mozilla goes into bankruptcy.

we do not need them. control of firefox should be in the hands of a not-for-profit group, not a company.

FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.

GrapheneOS is pretty good, as a more private alternative to Android, though the downside is that it’s only available for Pixel phones. I bought a used one on ebay.

It sounds like a bullshit excuse, to me.

If they wanted to cover their ass, they could have changed their ToS any number of different ways than what they went with.

Let’s not be naïve. All corporations are the enemy, including Mozilla.

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON!!!

google does this kinda shit on purpose to reinforce their market position

all those positive articles were puff pieces from western media, they’re terrified of people moving away from capitalism, argentina was, until recently, socialist, so the USA and their allies did everything possible to cause them problems. so when a capitalist won the election they just started spamming how great he was and all that shit.

it’s all bullshit. it’s all lies. you can’t believe a word the media prints.

i’m disabled and i volunteer with disabled people, and we talk about these kind of things quite often - people will talk about how a thoughtless comment on the internet started a spiral of despair. there’s one guy in that group of 30ish who tries to tell people how their words affected him. everyone else, they keep it to themselves, for various reasons - sometimes they’re scared that if they share how they were affected by a comment, the person who wrote it will intentionally try to hurt them more. some people are scared of being seen as a “karen”, some just don’t want to bother people.

we all understand that, most of the time, people aren’t trying to upset us. they’re just being a bit thoughtless. i totally understand that it seems like an arbitrary imposition, but it’s really not that hard to just be a bit more considerate of others.

if you think a word you like to say is more important than being considerate of others, then you keep doing whatever you want. but stop lying to yourself, your actions can hurt people, and blaming people for being hurt by your actions is karen behavior.

no one asked

not everyone you offend is like that. 90%+ of people you’ll hurt with your words will say nothing to you about it, they"ll just feel like you’re less trustworthy, less respectable, less professional and less considerate. if you want to take all of those disadvantage because… wait, why is it you don’t want to be considerate of the feelings of others, again? you… don’t want to learn new things? okay then.

you’re adding way too much into this. who said that someone would guilt you? normally when you make someone sad they don’t say anything about it, they just feel a bit worse and continue with their lives

i’m just explaining to you, there’s no way to rationalize your way out of this. you are in complete control over what you say, unless you have verbal tics. and people will understand if you accidentally say something offensive from a tic. do you not understand this? it’s just about responsibility.

take some responsibility for what you say. that’s all.

so you think other people should take responsibility for something they can’t control, but you should have no responsibility for something you can control?

you can’t stop yourself from feeling sad, but you can stop yourself from doing something that makes someone else sad

having no concern for the feelings of others is just really irrational and selfish imo

feelings are important, though? if i can avoid hurting someone and all it costs me is saying blocklist instead of blacklist, that seems like an obvious slam dunk

here’s a question - if you had a friend who was making a mistake, would you try to encourage them to reconsider?

if you think I would poke fun at you, you have absolutely the wrong idea about my motivations. i don’t want you to fail, i want you to succeed. i just know that this boycott won’t achieve anything, and all of the time and energy put into it will be completely wasted.

i want people to take all of that time and energy and put it towards something that will actually achieve something meaningful. i want people to join a union and find a local activist group, and start actually making connections, building solidarity, and taking collective action that actually will accomplish something!

i’m encouraging people to find an alternative to this boycott, because it will not be effective, and it will take away energy and oxygen from other forms of activism which are much more effective. boycotts and petitions almost universally achieve nothing, and they discourage people from getting involved with real activism.

firstly, thank you so much for the thoughtful message. reading insightful comments like yours, where it’s clear that you’re genuinely trying your best to make the world a better place, and you actually think about what i wrote, makes all of the hate i get totally worthwhile.

in my opinion, it’s more the unity of the working class, that’s what scares them - when we work together, and when we’re organized.

that’s the biggest flaw with petitions and boycotts, they are all focused on individual action. You don’t get together and organize a picket line, you don’t get to meet like-minded people, you don’t learn about how capitalism affects anyone other than yourself.

i’ve been involved in activism efforts for a long time now and if we could get just 5% of people who signed a petition to instead get involved with a local activist group, we would have won this fight by now.

i’m a union officer and rep, and i’m engaged with activism efforts in my area. sometimes i get bored at work and comment on lemmy.

it was easier for you to lash out at me than it was for you to actually seriously engage with what i wrote - that kind of reaction serves the ruling class, and sows division between the working class.

i wouldn’t say they’re always performative, because there’s always nuance. but i would say that they’re probably #2 on my list of pointless bullshit that almost never actually achieves anything, right after petitions.