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Cake day: July 9th, 2023

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  • Jews have lived in this land. They were given part of that land again after ww2 by a UN decision. Arabs that were living there were also given part.

    Jews were willing to share their part of the land with the Arabs, as equal citizens

    Jews accepted the offer, Arabs didn’t and declared war.

    Everything since then just went downhill

    Personally, I’m in favor of going back to the original resolution and have two countries. But if having sharing one country will end the conflict, then by all means…

    Unfortunately both sides don’t have enough interest of solving this conflict…




  • I think Palestinians are very much conceived as the victims today world wide. And I think they are playing that card well and I don’t blame them for that.

    I didn’t want to go to “who started it” because it’s a useless debate. The cycle has been going for decades with casualties on both ends.

    I’m very much capable of empathy. This whole thread is about the Israel Hamas war so I steered the discussion back to that topic.

    I am very sad about the current state of affairs, there’s immense suffering on both ends and it’s not going to stop anytime soon. I don’t hate Palestinians. As an expat Israeli, every time I see a Palestinian abroad we usually become friends and naturally have more in common.







  • I think you’re giving too much discount for the Palestinians for their current state or affairs and make it sound like everything that happened to them was done to them by Israel only. Both you and I know that is not true. A lot of things could and should have been handled differently, the same of course can be said for Israel. So try to get out of the position for a moment and see that there are a lot of things Palestinians can do to try and change their situation, regardless of any shitty behavior by Israel.


  • Unfortunately everything you said about israel is true, as an (expat) Israeli I see the current conflict only drives us further from any solution and more bloodshed in the future is almost certain.

    Regarding Hamas, it’s a fundamentalist jihadistic group that will not stop until the complete annihilation of all the Jews, with that I’m certain as they are saying exactly that. However they can be overthrown, that is what this war is about. Who will replace them ? No idea. Might be even worse…

    There are many good people on both ends that want to live in peace. Unfortunately the leadership is bad, driven by extremists and the politics are horrible (at least on Israel’s side, don’t know much about PA)


  • Palestinians should agree to get their own country and rule it themselves. Why would they be starved and killed ? Not sure I follow. No one should be starved or killed.

    And regarding Hamas - Israel cannot coexist next to it. Since Palestinians will not remove Hamas, who else will do it ? Egypt ? The rest of the Arab world ? Israel is left to do it unfortunately. I would like to see any other country in the middle east handle a situation like that… Think they would eliminate Hamas with 0 civilian casualties?