Not OP.
getting downvotes etc
That was mostly on the first day. OP was probably very frustrated and disappointed after their initial impression. The way the rant that followed afterwards was written didn’t do them any favors 😅 and the downvotes that followed afterwards were therefore not very surprising…
I allredy forgot which distro worked for you
Pop!_OS
I hope to read more about OP’s experiences with Linux and if they decide to stick with it. Let’s hope we get updates on those soon 😉.
Again an association is made between butt plugs and Arch users. I wonder if moving forward showing a collection of butt plugs will become the next “I use Arch, btw”.
Wayland released in 2008, so it makes sense for them to stop putting any effort soon after.
Software support seems lacking.
Compared to the AUR, the offering of any other distro will feel lacking (besides this one). Consider an Arch-distrobox for access to the AUR or install the Nix package manager on Fedora through Determinate Systems’ installer.
Xorg wiki page.
Fedora’s Wiki leaves a lot to desire in general, especially if you’ve come from the ArchWiki. On that note, I would argue only ArchWiki and Gentoo’s Wiki are excellent showcases of how the Wiki of a distro should look like.
Furthermore, Fedora has been the first to enable Wayland by default (since 2016 in fact). Therefore, I don’t find it that surprising that Fedora didn’t think it’s worth putting man-hours to the documentation of a project for which its sunset was in sight.
Nope I downloaded VLC through the software manager.
Interesting to hear that it caused so many issues then 🤔. FWIW, I’ve personally been using MPV since I’m on Linux. I don’t remember the exact reason, but if my memory serves me right; support for it on Linux somehow seemed superior compared to VLC. Related; e.g. it’s actually found in Fedora’s repos.
I’m going to do this for one week, doing daily updates and trying my god-damned best to get this shit software to do what the community says it can do.
Kudos for sticking with it for a bit longer! Please feel free to seek help from the community; though be mindful of your language if possible, I’m sure it will contribute to more people reaching out.
I managed the get Nvidia working on 39, which looks like an accomplishment given the other post linked about Nvidia and issues with 39.
Well done! Please note that a random update related to Nvidia might break your system in the future. If you don’t want to deal with that in the future, running one of those Nvidia Images from uBlue ensures that from happening in the first place. This offers some explanation to what it achieves and how. TL;DR:
"We’ve slipstreamed the Nvidia drivers right onto the operating system image. Steps that once took place on your local laptop are now done in a continuous integration system in GitHub. Once they are complete, the system stamps out an image which then makes it’s way to your PC.
No more building drivers on your laptop, dealing with signing, akmods, third party repo conflicts, or any of that. We’ve fully automated it so that if there’s an issue, we fix it in GitHub, for everyone.
But it’s not just installation and configuration: We provide Nvidia driver versions 525, 520, and 470 for each of these. You can atomically switch between any of these, so if your driver worked perfectly on a certain day and you find a regression you just rebase to that image."
Btw mounting a NAS is basic, basic office environment functionality. I don’t know how Linux ever expects to take over in the office if mounting a NAS drive is this stupid and difficult.
I hope am sure there’s an easy way, we just have to figure out what that is. Wish you the best of luck, though!
Btw, if the idea of Nobara did interest you, perhaps you should consider Bazzite; which is a project related to uBlue, but which -like Nobara- tries to be properly setup for gaming from the get-go.
Couple of things that might have tampered your experience:
dnf and/or flatpak. As VLC isn’t even found in Fedora’s repos (though it is found in RPM Fusion’s repos), your best bet would have been installing it as a flatpak. Which in this case, could have been through the built-in ‘storefront’ with a GUI (it’s called Software on GNOME) or through the terminal with the flatpak install org.videolan.VLC -y command.but y’all are dirty liars. Linux is still bullshit and has been since I first installed it over 20 years ago. What the hell has the community even accomplished if it still sucks this much dick to use?
This doesn’t help your cause. Please refrain from saying such things in the future.
Edit: I just noticed this thread. It might simply be the case that Fedora 39 isn’t playing nice (yet). Consider installing Fedora 38 for the time being instead.
Silverblue + distrobox is enough for me.
Aight. Hope to meet you next time your hand and fingers start tingling and itching 😜.
I super appreciate all of the tips!
It has been my pleasure 😊!
I thought I was good installing Bazzite with a fresh install using an ISO, made sure to pick the NVIDIA option… it just failed to load the drivers, and showed a gray screen switching to open drivers.
Very strange. Consider reporting this as a bug on their Github or ask assistance on their discord server.
I played with NixOS in a VM. I have sooooo much to learn… so I think I will just install the package manager, and gorge on the cake I get to keep.
NixOS, while excellent at what it offers, is indeed very different from almost anything else. I wish you the best of luck if you wish to conquer it, but I’ve personally put it on my backlog; I hope to return to it eventually, but not now. Perhaps consider using Fleek, which would be Nix-made-easy. Obviously, it isn’t as powerful, but perhaps a new user doesn’t need that much power in the first place 😉.
You may be happy, or perhaps dismayed, to learn that I finally installed Bazzite on my desktop.
Well played! Welcome to the cool kids club! I’ve actually used Bazzite myself for a short while a couple of months ago. It felt like a holiday destination with lots of cool stuff, but it was more opinionated than what I’m comfortable with. So I returned back home (read: custom uBlue image) afterwards, where I am in command for what’s found inside and where I am free to do whatever I will. Though, I did pick up some of the things I liked from Bazzite 😜, so it was not for naught 😉.
I did a bit tonne of sampling, with BlendOS and Vanilla, trying things out, but Fedora wins.
Very interesting! I’ve got my own reasons for preferring Fedora *cough* security *cough*, but I’m very interested to know your findings! I’d have to admit that Vanilla OS’ upcoming 2.0 Orchid update is very tempting though.
I have Fedora Silverblue on a usb in case Bazzite does not like my computer,
Hmm…, perhaps consider the following:
rpm-ostree rebase fedora:fedora/39/x86_64/silverblue (assuming you’re already on Fedora 39).sudo ostree admin pin 0.rpm-ostree rollback.The above steps do assume that you haven’t pinned any prior Silverblue-deployments; as you don’t necessarily need multiple Silverblue-deployments 😅. Furthermore, they assume no additional steps involving Nvidia; but that’s mostly because I don’t have any experience dealing with that (thankfully).
I swear I will just jump onto the NIXOS (or guix) bandwagon if I ever decide to switch again.
FWIW, you can install both Nix and Guix on Silverblue.
Thank you for your feedback! I am learning a lot.
Glad to be of use 😜!
This is the first time I have run into issues where I was not tempted to abandon ship and go back to what works. I actually care about this system and want it to succeed. I think this is a super cool path forward.
I wholeheartedly agree!
GoboLinux
Wow, I almost forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me!
One problem I had is that I was trying to download an image for linux mint, because it gives me access to PPAs without needing to use SNAP due to Ubuntu, but I could not get an image to download, no matter what combination of linux + mint + version I used. I finally realized I could search podman, now I can go forward!
Good job learning about podman search! I’m sure you’ll manage 😉!
Yup, it’s absolutely lovely. Did you experiment with a custom home directory for your distrobox yet?
Thank you for reporting back! Much appreciated!
So it turns out, I cannot use my NVIDIA card using distrobox. I guess it only works with AMD?
Interesting. Unfortunately, I don’t own an Nvidia device. Therefore, I can’t tackle it myself. Distrobox should allow the use of Nvidia, but I’m unaware if this applies to the bazzite-arch container as well. The picture you shared and the link to its FAQ-page (found below) do suggest otherwise, unfortunately…
I was wondering if distrobox would somehow allow better performance
FWIW, I’ve always experienced better performance inside the bazzite-arch distrobox container, at least compared to Flatpak*.
I see that this image is used a lot on Steam Deck, which I also don’t understand why (as opposed to having everything native).
Because the distro image it’s used in conjunction with, Bazzite, is Fedora-based, while Steam OS is based on Arch. Bazzite is Fedora-based in the first place, because Arch doesn’t officially have any plans for ‘immutable’ distros yet. As for the remaining distros, only Fedora and NixOS (see Jovian-NixOS) have a sufficiently mature and suitable platform at this point in time.
maybe I am missing some graphical dependencies
This happens way more often than you might expect. Even the so-called ‘toolbox’ containers from Distrobox miss a lot of packages required to support software graphically. Consider running it inside a terminal and pay attention to error codes etc; those might/should help you resolve the issue. Sometimes it helps to explicitly use the -v or --verbose option to ensure that the program actually communicates what’s happening.
I cannot wait to get home and try it out!
Please consider reporting back after you’ve tried it; I’d love to read your experiences.
Wouldn’t it be fun to have “a ready-to-game Arch Linux based OCI designed for use exclusively in distrobox”?
Are you sure that any of the flatpak-based browsers actually run in Wayland. For the longest time they had to be explicitly enabled to work with Wayland and not X11. Even very recently both Brave and Edge required flags to run Wayland (and maybe still do); though Chromium-based even require specific flags to enable the two-finger swiping for navigation; --ozone-platform-hint=auto --enable-features=TouchpadOverscrollHistoryNavigation , as can be found on the ArchWiki. As for the ones based on Firefox, they should work right out of the gate. If they don’t, then first check if it’s running on Wayland; perhaps running the flatpak override --env=MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 command in terminal already solves that issue, however this should have been enabled by default. If it continues to not work, then -after ensuring that you are in fact running Wayland- you should make a bug report as this isn’t intended behavior.
While it doesn’t satisfy the “under $400”-condition, I couldn’t withhold myself from mentioning the likes of NovaCustom and Tuxedo. For the fact that both have been absent from the conversation while they otherwise satisfy the requirement of coreboot on a modern device. With the former, NovaCustom, being arguably the best vendor to buy ‘privacy&security’-first devices with modern hardware from. Not for their entire line -mind you- but specifically their NV41 Series; which is -to my knowledge- the only Qubes-certified computer with modern specs and Heads. However (with Qubes and Heads pre-installed) it starts at $1224, which makes it considerably more expensive that your stated target (read: under $400).
One of us! Welcome!
GNOME is indeed very opinionated. Consider taking a look at any of the “Desktop Icons”-extensions on extensions.gnome.org. This enables one to engage with desktop shortcuts without opening a terminal.
Depends. I can’t imagine how something like Endless OS could cause troubles to someone that only requires simple functionality (like e.g. their favorite web browser working etc) from their OS.
Yes. We can be very enthusiastic at times 😅.
I do think that engaging with different desktop environments at this stage of your Linux journey might be very beneficial in the long run, but I can totally understand it if you’d like to settle down for (at least) a moment.