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  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyztoAtheism@lemmy.worldAbsolutisms
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    6 days ago

    Once they’re in it, I don’t think there’s a way to get them out, or at least not effectively and productively.

    It’s a fundamental psychological need. For whatever reason, they can’t cope with an existence that isn’t anchored in some kind of supposedly absolute truth, so even if one could successfully break through to them and get them to see that their absolute truth is certainly not absolute and likely not even truth, all one would be doing would be tearing the props out from under their lives and leaving them with nothing.

    And it’s far more likely that one would fail to get through to them, and just end up alienating them. And, ironically enough, potentially leading them to cling to their make-believe absolute truth just that much more determinedly.

    I think it’s just one of those things that’s going to have to be left up to philosophical and sociological evolution. If humanity can survive long enough, I would expect it to become less of an issue over successive generations. And that’s likely about the best we can hope for.


  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyztoAtheism@lemmy.worldAbsolutisms
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    To some degree religion encourages that mindset, but it doesn’t create it. In fact, to a notable degree, it’s exactly the opposite - the desire to believe in some absolute truth is a lot of the reason that religion came to exist in the first place. It provides the absolute (nominal) truths that reality does not.

    In a way, your friend is right - the lack of absolute truth is at the heart of a lot of the world’s problems. But that’s not it by itself - it’s actually the lack of absolute truth in concert with the desperate need so many people have for it. There are a great many people for whom absolute truth is not necessary - who are perfectly content with the simple fact that reality is murky and complex and largely inexplicable and that our perceptions of it are necessarily subjective. They - we - don’t feel the compelling need your friend obviously has for absolute truth - we get by fine without it.

    But for the many who can’t cope with that - who can’t or won’t accept nuance and complexity and inexplicability and subjectivity - yes, the lack of absolute truth is certainly a problem.

    The thing is though that the universe isn’t going to change. Absolute truth isn’t going to suddenly make itself manifest because a bunch of conscious animals desperately yearn for it. The universe is going to keep on being unimaginably complex and largely inexplicable, so it’s up to people to come to terms with that.

    So as far as that goes, your friend is terribly, terribly wrong.

    And in fact, I think that the way in which he’s wrong is actually one of the biggest sources of misery in the world. It’s not just the absence of absolute truth, but the fact that a great many people, in the face of the absence of absolute truth, just go ahead and pick something and pretend that it’s absolute truth anyway, even though it’s self-evidently not.

    That does two things immediately - it distances people from sound reason, and it sets them against all of the people who doubt their make-believe absolute truth, and especially those who have chosen to believe some other make-believe absolute truth.

    I would say that if one were to dissect virtually any overtly destructive belief system - the sorts of things over which people will and do kill each other - one would find that basic error lurking at its heart.

    So yeah - in a way, the lack of absolute truth is a problem. But your friend’s way of approaching that fact is entirely and completely wrong, and is the real problem.










  • Hmm…

    I would assume then that the effect is somehow tied in with the fact that the light is diffused and relatively dim, since it’s simply a fact that the blues and greens are the colors that pop. Possibly there isn’t enough light to show up orange or red - effectively, everything is sort of in shadow?

    And by contrast, as I write this, it’s very smoky where I am, and yes - the light is notably orange. And I’ve noticed before that when it’s like this, shadows have an obvious blue tint.


  • This is an example of a thing I’ve said repeatedly about Trump - I’m willing to bet that he’s 100% sincere about this. He’s not dissembling or diverting - he actually, sincerely believes that he had every right to interfere in whatever ways he wanted.

    Why?

    Because he’s a near-total sociopath. I don’t think that concepts of truth and falsehood or right and wrong are even coherent to him. I think his entire measure of everything is wholly personal - if he wants it, then it’s right and if he doesn’t, then it’s wrong, and if he believes it, then it’s true, and if he doesn’t, then it’s false. And it really is that simple. It’s not that he lies, but that he lives in a fantasy world in which whatever he believes is true and whatever he wants is right.


  • Pretty much.

    Don’t get too hung up on the name - it’s just a personal bit of shorthand. What I’m talking about is the actual phenomenon. Parrish’s paintings are just the closest popular representation I’ve seen of it.

    It seems to happen most often in late summer, when (in my area at least) afternoon thundershowers are relatively common. There are times when the clouds will roll in, but they’re not dense enough to bring rain, and just at dusk, the light through those clouds is diffused but oddly clear, so in spite of the fact that the light level is low overall, colors, and especially blues and greens, really pop.

    In HSL terms, it’s essentially 100% saturation but only maybe 30% light, and since the light shifts toward red/orange, the blues and greens are the colors that stand out the most.