it’s just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it’s their electronics.
We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.
it’s just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it’s their electronics.
We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.
It’s a left wing newspaper that has been regularly posted here from extremely pro-Palestinian users.
That is… Kind of true but not really. Haaretz is (to ky knowledge) a large left-leaning newspaper that does indeed have a generally good track record but they also have multiple instances of matching blatant Israeli propaganda.
I mean yes, but this ruling is fhat they can’t do either. Since these regions are illegally occupied, their inhabitants have the right to resist said occupation and, therefore Israel doesn’t have the right to defend itself in the same way it would against an independent country.
Admittedly I can’t find the civilian injury numbers (I don’t think they’re out yet), but I found this:
“Even if the attacks seem to have been targeted, they had heavy, indiscriminate collateral damages among civilians, including children among the victims,” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement Wednesday after he met with Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib for talks.
At least, they were indiscriminate enough that the EU foreign policy chief found it appropriate to call them indiscriminate, which makes sense given that they were at least strong enough to kill or injure the guy sitting next to you on the bus if you’re carrying a pager.
Also from here:
Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate against Israel. The group said two of its fighters were among the dead and threatened a “just punishment”.
Given that 12 have died so far (9 at the time of the article), I’d expect more than 2 to be Hezbollah fighters before I call the attack discriminate. Now while there is a chance they’re more discriminate than this information implies, I doubt they got enough Hezbollah combatants or combat-adjacent members to qualify as valid military action.
Just because an action has collateral damage, does not make it indiscriminate.
It’s definitely indiscriminate. They chose to use explosives that will cause large amounts of collateral damage. Even if the idea itself is fine, the 2750 injuries are 100% on them.
I mean the people carrying the pagers were likely with Hezbollah, but the 2750 people injured? Yeah no.
Ah, yes, the 2758 people were all Hezbollah.
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I mean knowledge yes, money no (or at least not compared to a conventional army), and most knowledge can be obtained through the internet or people who support your cause (if you don’t have a reasonably popular cause you can’t create a grassroot paramilitary organization). Also remember that some of the bigger paramilitary organizations usually considered terrorists (I personally don’t like the term as I think it’s been corrupted beyond saving by Western politicians and media) control land the size of a small country, for example some of the ISIS branch organizations. Other than that some have state backers (see Qatar, Iran and the US) or gain money through people who support their cause or some kind of business activity (the Taliban sell cocaine for example). Hamas is a good example, and in their particular case the money mostly comes from taxes in the Gaza strip, Qatari and Iranian support and money sent by individuals from abroad (usually by Palestinians).
TL;DR: Paramilitary organizations usually don’t need as much money as conventional states, and have ways to get it. Add in a sympathetic cause and it’s doable.
Why do people care so much about this? Like seriously this is the thing you go to court over?
I mean gang violence is usually not a grand spectacle event, so it has nothing to do with the text you’re quoted.
No? The conversation was (and still is) centered around school shootings.
I mean nobody was talking about gang violence here.
This is a… Unique way of thinking about this. I’ll preface all of this by saying: Get therapy, or at least talk to people. Seriously. Feeling that every day is agony and hating your parents for giving birth to you clearly means you’re hurting somewhere. There is absolutely no need for that to be your normal.
how much better that would be for everybody.
Uh… Why are you talking like you’re the antichrist or something? In all likelihood you’re a mildly good person in the eyes of some people and a mildly bad person in the eyes of others. I mean you know yourself better than I do, but stop for a minute and think whether the dramatic statement of “how much better that would be for everybody” makes sense.
It just frustrates me that something SO SIMPLE could have saved me 41 years of daily agony.
I know that this is the product of deeper mental health issues, but I’ll just point out that you’re doing the same thing your mother did; only in your case it’s your life instead of Phil Hartman. I mean 41 years? Yeah you probably weren’t in agony before gaining object permanence, and definitely not every single day of your life. Just because things are hard now doesn’t mean you have to reject happiness you had in the past.
How does that even work?
Their propaganda, lies and weapons to Israel will forever be a deep moral stain on the West.
I mean add it to the pile but yes.
0 years is the maximum timeline for vigilantism.
I mean… some people just deal worse with food in many ways. You can give three children the exact same food and they’ll all end up with different amounts of body fat.
That’s basically the non-aligned movement, which… Uh… Didn’t work out very well last time.