As most of you are aware, since Kamala Harris’s election loss (which trans people were not in charge of nor responsible for), Democratic politicians and pundits have been signaling that they plan to throw trans people under the bus. Sadly, this came to fruition last week, when Republican congressperson Nancy Mace pressed house speaker Mike Johnson to
  • davidagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    17 days ago

    Your idea of not voting being the only form of civic involvement is breathtakingly counter productive. The more the right wingers win, the more the Democrats move right to win back what passes for centrists in the USA’s horribly twisted version of democracy.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      17 days ago

      I said that people should vote. Damn dude. You can’t even build a strawman properly.

      • davidagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        16 days ago

        Your idea of not voting for the Democrats being the only form of civic involvement in democratic policy is breathtakingly counter productive. The more the right wingers win, the more the Democrats move right to win back what passes for centrists in the USA’s horribly twisted version of democracy.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          16 days ago

          I said people should vote for democrats! Man, you really suck at this. Are you just trolling or are you really this fucking stupid?

          • davidagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            16 days ago

            You honestly sounded to me like you were advocating for withholding your vote and my one and only point was that that is counter productive. If you don’t disagree with that point, I feel you could have made it far, far clearer.

            So no, I’m not trolling, and I don’t think I’m stupid, but I did fully believe that you were disagreeing with my point about witholding votes achieving the opposite of what I believe are our shared goals. So now I think you were just unclear and unnecessarily combative.

            There’s nothing in anything I said about voting being the only useful thing we can do, that was all in your head.

            • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
              3·
              16 days ago

              I said we should protest. Voting is a minimal action and isn’t that effective, especially if the party knows you’re already essentially obligated to vote for them.

              This was in response to your comment essentially implying the protests that this post is about shouldn’t happen and democrats should have unconditional support. If you agree the protests are good then I guess we both could have communicated better.