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    I refuse to pay for ads to be delivered to me. Seeing them unpaid is bad enough and I avoid it at all costs. But I will not pay for ads.

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      I’ve returned to the high seas, eye patch and all.

      I found a seedbox provider that is fairly cheap and works well. I have a long standing rss feed for new shows so next step is going to be getting it setup to auto download for me. I can do it locally but spectrum is hard core with the dmca notices and I don’t want to risk losing my account.

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        Have a look at the **arr range of apps

        Sonarr and Radarr with NZBGet, usenet indexer and a cheap unlimited news server provider, and you’re laughing. I have everything downloading automagically as soon as its release, loads right into Jellyfin - all on a copyright notice keen ISP and never have any issues because im not sharing anything up, its all down with usenet

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          I have been looking into this solution, I am concerned on whether it will need a VPN or not. I have one already, but it does not play nice with my current solution.

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            The majority of countries, and the uk for sure, its not illegal to download content but it is illegal to upload it / share it. Therefore using usenet is fine to do, legally, without the aid of a VPN as you are merely consuming and not providing or uploading. I have been doing this for years with zero problem or letter from any of three isps i have been with the in last decade.

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                You’re very welcome. I have a newsletter you can subscribe to if you’d like, though i should probably warn you it costs £5 a month and includes some advertising.

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            I have all my services set up on a docker container that has a VPN Killswitch, so if the VPN ever drops for any reason my “activity” is disabled automatically until I can notice and fix it.

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            It’s all direct download and https from what I understand, so all anyone can see is that you went to the sites, not what you download.

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        I have Spectrum as well, but using a VPN w/ dead switch turned on has worked thus far. They really are ruthless with dmca though. Hate Spectrum with a deep, deep passion, and not just because of that, but everything else. There’s a competitor rolling out fiber everywhere in my city though, so I will soon be ditching them, thankfully.

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          There are 2 companies running fiber in my city but I live in the outskirts in what I call country’ish, no clue if/when they make it to my street, there are only like 20 houses if that on my road.

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          If I’m not mistaken, Spectrum has no data cap, right?

          Asking because I actually miss Spectrum relative to other major cable providers. And I’ve not had the opportunity to get on the fiber train yet.

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            No data cap anywhere that I am aware of. Despite being in what I call country’ish we have gigabit down from them but the upload is capped at like 35-40 megs.

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            They have no cap, but that’s only because they agreed to not impose a cap for a period of time as part of the agreement with the FCC (FTC? One of those 3-letter agencies) that allowed them to absorb Time Warner Cable. That period of time is up, I’m pretty sure, so we shall see what they decide to do.

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          Or, I could pay the $9/month for a server that has a 10gig connection to the rest of the world and do my part by leaving them seeding for longer than I would otherwise.

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            Would love a seed box recommendation if you have one to share? My new place is off grid so with limited power prefer to offload a 24 hour server elsewhere so I can be a responsible seeder.

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            What service offers that and doesn’t mind torrenting? (Legal torrenting ofc, we wouldn’t ever dream of discussing illegal topics here 🏴‍☠️)

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              I’m using rapidseedbox.com, they don’t ask for any personal info and I paid with crypto. The lowend plan I’m using is $9/month and doesn’t offer many options aside from sftp access, 3 or 4 torrent apps you can switch between and a couple of other things. The higher end plans offer a shit load more like plex, etc. They will send a dmca notice and then like 12 hours later delete the offending content. I’ve learned that you can just restart the torrent and re-download it and all is well going forward.

              There are a ton of other options out there for seedboxes.

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      Even as a child, when we had cable, I would ask my dad why we still had to watch commercials even though we pay for the service. I understood why stations like CBS, NBC, or ABC may have needed ads as they were free over-the-air, but surely paying for cable should mean no ads, right?

      Never had a good answer. It’s pretty fucked up that we collectively allowed them to pull that shit on us and put up with it for like 3 decades.

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        There was a brief and glorious time when Pay Cable was billed as being ad-free. You would still see promos for other shows and channels between shows, but there were no commercial breaks!

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          Same as BBC in the UK.

          Maybe a 5-10 sec “And next on BBC 1 is blah blah and on BBC 2 we have blah blah starting at 7 o’clock”

          Of course you “have” to pay for it, though (if you don’t pay nobody would know).

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          Oh shit, I forgot about that being a thing. Wow, how the fuck did society get so accustomed to dealing with that BS? Granted, we almost broke out of it when streaming became mainstream, but it looks like we’re about to get a screwed right back into it.

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    How do people think paying for a service and still being served ads is acceptable?

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      Hulu has a lower price tear that includes ads. It makes it more affordable for some people. If they had started out with ads I would be less upset, but for a big company like Amazon it just seems like they’re trying to make even more money off of the consumer.

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        Hulu DID start out with ads. When they launched it was an entirely ad supported service. Hulu+ didn’t come until years later. After several years of running two tiers of service, free ad supported and paid ad free, they dropped the free tier. Now, years later, we’re back to ads with Hulu, but this time you pay for the privilege.

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        Right, but the business model is totally different. You’re paying your cable provider for access, you’re not paying to watch the TV shows. The TV shows were financed by broadcaster advertising revenues among other streams of income. With Amazon, you’re paying for access and to fund their programs. Ads are just greedy and anti-consumer for a vertically integrated platform like Amazon Video.

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        Cable wasn’t really a thing here in the UK, we’re not primed for their bullshit.

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      To be fair, Prime Video has always just been a free perk attached to prime (and with all the other ‘perks’ combined you could basically consider it free). For example I get an extra 3% back on all my Amazon orders by being a prime member. At the current cost of prime and just with the home supplies I order w/ subscribe and save, it pays for itself. That’s not to say I’m happy with this, but in actuality they’re fairly well positioned with the product to make this move and have most of the user base be merely disgruntled.

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    It’s literally a race to the bottom on streaming services before we eventually end up with cable in an app. Or rather multiple apps.

    Fuck I hate this timeline.

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    Better not be advert breaks in the service I PAY FOR, or else I’m out.

    I’m not paying anybody to serve me adverts. Ever.

    Their application is already god awful, and their database is built incredibly poorly (what idiot decided that different seasons of one TV show should have entirely separate listings in the database, often making it hard to find?!).

    AND, they’re constantly trying to shove extra paid stuff down my throat, like something called Paramount+, in the thing I’m already bloody paying for.

    I’m already at the edge of my tether with these people for their crappy service. If they introduce advertisment breaks into a service I’m paying for? That would be a direct insult, and I don’t stand for that sort of thing.

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      their database is built incredibly poorly (what idiot decided that different seasons of one TV show should have entirely separate listings in the database, often making it hard to find?!).

      Likely this is legacy from when you would buy each season as a DVD set

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    People use prime video? I find that half the shit I click on, it tells me it’s not included with prime and I have to buy it…

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    Wow, first they destroy Prime Music to push you to pay extra for Music Unlimited and now this? I have no idea what the value of Prime even is now unless you order online frequently, which is harder and harder to justify with all the shady and low quality sellers polluting the site.

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    I’ve been planning on cancelling prime at the end of the year. This closes the decision making process for me.

    I’ve been sticking to Pluto and Tubi lately. Yes, they have ads, but they are entirely free and have enough content to keep me entertained for the duration of my ever decreasing television watching habits.

    (End of year because due to terms and conditions, there is no benefit to cancel early)

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        My experience with prime delivery in 2023 is that it has gone from two days to four days to two weeks to completely lost fuck you trying to get a refund.

        Further, I stopped using eBay in the late 2000s because everything there became “fell off a truck in China” quality. This is what a vast percentage of Amazon product has become.

        This is the crux desire to cancel.

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          eBay has its uses, especially when you’re trying to find used genuine parts for whatever you’re working on, but other than that both eBay and Amazon seem to be flooded with Chinese crap

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          I bought a new fire stick from Amazon, it didn’t work so I sent it back as defective. They sent me a refurbished one, and I had to fight them for weeks to accept that I paid for a new one, not a refurb.

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        Same, I often forget that prime video exists, I pay for prime so my wife’s packages arrive quicker and I get a free twitch sub monthly

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          I’m in Canada, honestly the only reason prime video gets used in my house, is cause it has Pingu and my kid loves that. Usually there’s really nothing there aside from The Boys that I watch regularly or can’t watch elsewhere. It’s mostly paywalled too, with different channels you have to pay extra for, which is annoying.

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        I canceled last time they raised the price and started including football. The only thing prime is really good for is if you like making a bunch of little purchases frequently. I honestly don’t miss it at all. When I do buy something, you get free shipping on anything else you buy for the next 24 hours. That ends up covering the little stuff I might have forgotten on the original order and prime shipping was rarely 2 days anymore anyway, so what’s an extra day or two wait.

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    Prime already has ads and they are obnoxious. They are their own ads. Is outside ads the new development or what? New tiers?

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    Remember folks who are currently subscribed: They do not give prorated refunds for full year subs. When you cancel the service ends immediately. Setup calendar reminders or eat the sunk cost now because Amazon Prime is just a typical subscription entrapment scheme that will only get harder and harder to cancel, like a gym membership.

    Edit: Thanks /u/@firadin - Cancel now, you don’t lose anything and the membership simply won’t renew on your renewal date.

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      Is that new? When I cancelled last year a couple months into my year long subscription I got the money back for the unused months. No problem, easy too.

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        It’s not new, it’s just asshole web design and misleading pages when you go to cancel. I went and cancelled a couple minutes ago.

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      That’s not accurate, they don’t stop your benefits when you hit the cancel button. I just cancelled today and have my benefits until the end of my yearly subscription in November.

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        Wow, you’re right. I just ended mine.

        Their website has an asshole design. They make you click through two pages before telling you the truth.

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    This isn’t even really normal entshitification, they added videos and some music cheap Spotify knockoff to their fast delivery flat rate. Nobody asked them to.

    Then they slowly raised the price, essentially locking everyone that just wanted free fast delivery into a video streaming service and kept increasing the price.

    They did this to force existing subscribers into their “new” business idea of a video streaming service, when they couldn’t yet compete with the competition back then. Good news for them, their competitors are shit now.

    Now they can include advertisements in it too and add more expensive advertisement free tiers. Essentially increasing the price again, but hiding it so people can’t ask for subscription fees back in Europe.

    Do they really think most people have forgotten they just wanted a fast delivery flat rate? They will never offer their delivery flat rate without video and all that stuff again, only if a legislature would force them.

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      And increasingly I’m finding that they’re making me place a minimum order size to get the free shipping. You know - like shipping was without prime.

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    The enshitification will continue until there isn’t any cent left to transfer to the shareholders.

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      Trillion dollar company doesn’t care. You’ll get ads and they will take your money. Like it or not.

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    Just in time for me to finish Invincible and fuck off

    They aren’t doing it because they have to, they’re doing it to make money.