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The new law permits pedestrians to cross a roadway at any point, including outside of a crosswalk. It also allows for crossing against traffic signals and specifically states that doing so is no longer a violation of the city’s administrative code. But the new law also warns that pedestrians crossing outside of a crosswalk do not have the right of way and that they should yield to other traffic that has the right of way.

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[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 124 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Insane it was ever made illegal.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Jaywalking" being a crime is such a fundamentally brainrot thing

The law here in Brazil, not that anyone follows it, but it basically follows the logic of "the smaller you are, the more of a right of way you have". I.e. theoretically, a car should ALWAYS stop or slow itself to save a pedestrian or cyclist or even a motorcyclist

.... Again, not that anyone follows it, but it IS on the paper.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

the term used here is "vulnerable". Vulnerability gives you priority

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

It would be nice if this was followed but the reality of the world is the opposite. It's right of weight, not right of way.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How does one "legalize" walking? Jaywalking is an absurd concept to begin with.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Step 2. bring cars to the market before proper regulations were a thing
Step 3. aggressively lobby and market that it's the walkers fault for getting driven over
Step 4. actually win over public opinion somehow

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Step 1: be American

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are plenty of places you're not allowed to walk for your own safety and the safety of others. It's not a crazy concept, although I do think that jaywalking should be legal

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Airports are so annoyingly difficult to walk around.

I prefer walking straight through, personally.

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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In 28 years living in New York, the vast majority of my crossing the street is done between the blocks. Some of them are very long.

And New Yorkers cross the street like we own it because we know that anyone who hits us is gonna get their ass sued off and have to pay out ridiculous amounts of money.

[–] azl@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 week ago

I support this law (fuck cars), but if you step into the street thinking an oncoming car won't destroy you like a pinata stuffed with ketchup packets, you have survived the luckiest lawsuit-free 28 years.

this really threw me when I first visited new york. I come from a place where you don't dare try that because you WILL get hit and the driver will likely get no consequences. seeing new yorkers just walk out into traffic without even looking was such a mindfuck

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good, especially since the law just targets POC.

If car traffic became 50% worse to make walking traffic 5% better, that's a win for humans in the city. It'll help convince more people to use non-car methods of transportation and that helps spark people to vote for and invest in more non-car infrastructure.

Ditching cars in populated cities isn't a magic law or anything, it's a slow incremental burn; legalizing pedestrians walking strictly helps that

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Ditching cars should be done everywhere (not just in populated cities).

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agree, but it's certainly easier to do in NYC than rural places in the US, so I advocate for starting there

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The cemetery is full of people who had the right of way.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

This is great. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm okay with violence against people who think their convenience takes priority over the safety of others.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the bricks all end up on one side of the cross walk. good idea, no way for it to actually work.

[–] Steve@communick.news 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Regular enough bidirectional foot traffic would make it work.

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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. It's a joke.

  2. Just throw them back after use.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 week ago

Yet somehow some city think it's a good idea to use the same exact idea but with a flag when crossing the street.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They were also fans of using it against left-wing protestors while ignoring the right doing it, particularly in the case of anti-genocide protests. I assume they will just find something new to pick people off in the crowd now.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

… it was illegal? No one has received a ticket for jaywalking in nyc.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

No white people maybe.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Adam Ruins Everything had an episode about jaywalking and how it became a crime.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are there ever any tickets for any sort of traffic violation of any sort in nyc?

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC, it’s still illegal in many Australian states.

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