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[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Media literacy was never the problem, because it wasn't actual confusion about what was real or not that was drawing people to the extreme alt-right sphere, it was confirmation bias that allowed people to choose not to critically assess the content for veracity.

But I don't think you can solve this through "media ecology" either. Curating this volume of content is impossible, and there are legitimate dangers in giving the government too much ability to shut down free speech (see Germany condemning any form of pro-Palestinian rhetoric as antisemitic) in order to guard "truth".

I think that this is similar to the issue of biased GenAI; you can't fix bias at the human-output side, you have to build a society that doesn't want to engage with bigotry, and explore and question its own assumptions (and that's not ever a fixed state, it's an ongoing process).

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Curating this volume of content is impossible, and there are legitimate dangers in giving the government too much ability to shut down free speech

Agreed. We have already given more than enough control to the government in other areas of our lives. We now have alternative social platforms that give us a chance to actually have more direct control over our media landscape which hasn't been true in such a long time.

you have to build a society that doesn’t want to engage with bigotry, and explore and question its own assumptions (and that’s not ever a fixed state, it’s an ongoing process).

I think this is what they were trying to get across when they mention media ecology. They were pointing out how the structure of where media is shared and its sources can be more important for quashing disinformation than the actual content itself.

So when something is shared through YouTube there are certain pressures that over time mold the source of information into a specific format.

I'd say the same is true of the Fediverse as well. That's why its important we get the structure here right because it will determine what kind of platform this place turns into.

Edit: grammar

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say that consuming content that only confirms your biases is a form of failing media literacy as you're failing to see the biases inherent to the content you're consuming. There's the flaw of "I think it's this way" seeking out that content and not seeing that it's poorly sourced (if at all) and eating it up.

Not to mention the role that content suggestion algorithms play in reinforcing that behavior and providing you with even more content along the lines of the biases you're reinforcing.

It's a complicated can of worms for sure.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

you’re failing to see the biases inherent to the content you’re consuming

You are underestimating people, I think. People choose their echo chambers because they understand that their positions are being challenged elsewhere. It's not an inability to see the bias in what they consume, it's a dislike of the alternative.

Every Trumper I talk to knows very well that Trump is unpopular, that Christian Nationalism is unpopular, that abortion rights are popular, etc, but they don't care, and they don't want to constantly be (rightfully) told and shown how dumb they are, so they wall themselves off in their gardens. "I'm just tired of hearing how bad Trump is all the time."

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago

This cannot be taught. I really wish it could, don't get me wrong, but it just can't.

We would not be here if this were possible. Something about rhyming, but I'm sorry, when Hitler is what you're quoting, this becomes a different conversation.

I have read Mein Kampf. I've never read anything so poorly written, and I've dealt with a lot of junior reporters. Hitler should have stuck to speeches.

The problem here is we're talking about Hitler. You generally don't want to go there.