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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 97 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Housing, healthcare, education, and other universal necessities shouldn't be for-profit.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They can be for profit.

But limited, a landlord has 1-2 apartments, not 50, and corporations are right out, as are foreign owners.

Housing needs to be about housing, healthcare needs to focus on healthcare.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I care less about the number of units the landord has(within reason) than where they live. If a guy wants to rent a dozen units a few blocks from his own house, fine. But some asshole 5 states away renting a house he's never going to lay eyes on? Fuck off.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of the worst landlords in my city are locals who rent out 1-2 houses to students.

The least bad landlord AFAICT is a local corporation that mostly rents out commercial space but has a few residential rentals too.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not saying local landlords will necesarily be good landlords, I just want them within the jurisdiction they rent in. I want the people they know irl to know they're assholes and slumlords. I want the local news to be able to stop by their house and ask them why they suck. I want the people who live in their rentals to take all that shit to the same local government they have to deal with for anything they want to do apart from runing rentals.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Housing needs to be about housing, healthcare needs to focus on healthcare.

That's why I think profit needs to be eliminated from the equation. With it, the priority will always be maximizing profit, with providing a quality product or service being secondary, or even incidental.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

We used to be able to pull it off, then citizens united and other lobbying meant corporations can 'add to cart' any laws they want.

Break campaign finance and things can actually get better.

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you can't both expect profit and good maintenance. pick one, or the other. in all things. that's why roads aren't privatized. or the fire brigade. etc.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but roads and the fire brigade are shit in many states, because the construction company is run by the governors idiot brother.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a separate problem. Solved by anti nepotism laws.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hahaha hahaha.

Oh, you were being serious? Let me laugh harder.

The south is just corruption incarnate, they have anti-nepotism laws, they're trivial to get around.

Good ol boy network always wins.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you ain't wrong. It just feels declasse for me to keep digging up Sherman's corpse and yelling at him to finish the job.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I know but I lived there, he spoke the only language they can understand.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh boy, wait until you find out about cartels.

No they can't.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They can, the politicians just have to have the balls.

Teddy Roosevelt knew how to handle cartels.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Have an upvote!

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 16 points 2 weeks ago

Ultimately nothing should be for profit.

[–] BirbSeed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed, though I would also be down for more tightly regulated and graded housing similar to our restaurants in the short term.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More states should allow withholding rent.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not just withholding rent, punitive judgements on anything less than best effort on dealing with it as soon as it's known and inspection schedules that keep the longest duration it can be unknown for short enough to avoid most health issues.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

isn't that headline tautological?