Eh. The older I get, the more neutral and apathetic I get. Everything seems to come from some direction with a degree of bias.
It’s like fed articles on the war in Ukraine. If things were as positive as articles from both sides regularly claim, it wouldn’t be where it is in Sep 2023. I get propaganda is also used to positively influence morale and support—and I encourage it for Ukraine—but it sure would be nice to see more unbiased reporting and posting. As it is, just got to kind of determine a median of the propaganda and that’s likely the actual situation.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you’re closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Edit: I see my lagged and incoming downvotes are the aforementioned pro-xxxxx doing exactly as I said they do. As far as I’m concerned, it’s downvoting the opinion of accurate information distributed to allow critical assessment of individuals—since that’s obviously the opposite of propaganda. I’d be interested to know the opinion of why someone downvoted me since the topic is about propaganda. If it’s because you’re pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine, well, thank you for participating in proving the point. The confirmation would be good though as long as it doesn’t turn into an off-tipic debate around the War in Ukraine, which isn’t actually the topic here, just an example used of the thousands but chosen for it’s comminality and relevance right now
Haha. A positive side-effect. Do you have any good sources for people like me that care but have their energy spent elsewhere? I’m exhausted on climate, domestic racism, and equal opportunity. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about everything else, I just literally don’t have capacity to cover it all, and that’s what propaganda and bias agenda preys on.
Especially online, opinion is readily available. Information is becoming rarer.
I feel like pro Ukraine propaganda and pro Russia propaganda is pretty easy to spot and ignore if you actually follow the events happening on the battlefield, and not what any major or semi major news outlets post.
There is a big community of open source intelligence folks on Twitter. They accurately and verifiably geo locate all the photos and videos from any given day.
From that info you can get an idea of where the fighting is currently taking place, where Ukraine positions are and where Russians positions are. So you can see who is advancing, where, and by how much.
That’s the most accurate way I’ve found to be in the know about who’s currently doing better and who is currently doing worse.
If Ukraine holds out for 10 years before they lose they still lost. The problem is that Russia, as always has beating hearts they are willing to send into the war machine to be ground up. And they have more than Ukraine.
Eh. The older I get, the more neutral and apathetic I get. Everything seems to come from some direction with a degree of bias.
It’s like fed articles on the war in Ukraine. If things were as positive as articles from both sides regularly claim, it wouldn’t be where it is in Sep 2023. I get propaganda is also used to positively influence morale and support—and I encourage it for Ukraine—but it sure would be nice to see more unbiased reporting and posting. As it is, just got to kind of determine a median of the propaganda and that’s likely the actual situation.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you’re closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Edit: I see my lagged and incoming downvotes are the aforementioned pro-xxxxx doing exactly as I said they do. As far as I’m concerned, it’s downvoting the opinion of accurate information distributed to allow critical assessment of individuals—since that’s obviously the opposite of propaganda. I’d be interested to know the opinion of why someone downvoted me since the topic is about propaganda. If it’s because you’re pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine, well, thank you for participating in proving the point. The confirmation would be good though as long as it doesn’t turn into an off-tipic debate around the War in Ukraine, which isn’t actually the topic here, just an example used of the thousands but chosen for it’s comminality and relevance right now
My big brain moment was when I realized that my interest in studying the conflict itself was the result of propaganda.
Haha. A positive side-effect. Do you have any good sources for people like me that care but have their energy spent elsewhere? I’m exhausted on climate, domestic racism, and equal opportunity. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about everything else, I just literally don’t have capacity to cover it all, and that’s what propaganda and bias agenda preys on.
Especially online, opinion is readily available. Information is becoming rarer.
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I feel like pro Ukraine propaganda and pro Russia propaganda is pretty easy to spot and ignore if you actually follow the events happening on the battlefield, and not what any major or semi major news outlets post.
How do you follow the events on the battlefield without checking the news outlets?
There is a big community of open source intelligence folks on Twitter. They accurately and verifiably geo locate all the photos and videos from any given day.
From that info you can get an idea of where the fighting is currently taking place, where Ukraine positions are and where Russians positions are. So you can see who is advancing, where, and by how much.
That’s the most accurate way I’ve found to be in the know about who’s currently doing better and who is currently doing worse.
I mean it is going in Ukraine’s direction. By all metrics they should’ve lost by now.
If Ukraine holds out for 10 years before they lose they still lost. The problem is that Russia, as always has beating hearts they are willing to send into the war machine to be ground up. And they have more than Ukraine.
Nah Russia tries to front a stronger economy than they have. Already people are pretty unhappy.
Putin’s own people are starting to flee and cannibalize one another.