there’s an alternate universe version of this where musk’s attendant sycophants and bodyguard have to fish his electrocuted/suffocated/crushed body out from the crawlspace he wedged himself into with a pocket knife
there’s an alternate universe version of this where musk’s attendant sycophants and bodyguard have to fish his electrocuted/suffocated/crushed body out from the crawlspace he wedged himself into with a pocket knife
Turns out his grandfather started/was in some sort of weird techno cult (engineers should rule the world) and that is why they all moved to ZA, and yes they did blame everything on Jewish people.
Wait, there’s another weird techno-cult?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement search for Joshua Norman Haldeman
there is so much to dig into here
technofascism really is older than it seems, isn’t it? there’s a bunch of shades of modern-day Silicon Valley libertarianism in there too, especially the reactionary shit that can be read as “you don’t need socialism if you do engineering hard enough and put all of your trust and money into the smart rich boys who lead our movement”. I’ve omitted some of the even more unhinged parts of their manifesto, but the whole thing is worth reading
this shit is fascinating and I want to find out more
This isn’t as bad as it looks iirc, somewhere else I read this was because they were an anti-war org and those were declared illegal. No idea if they were anti war because the nazis should win, or anti war because war bad however.
@Soyweiser I don’t think there was anything illegal about being anti-war in general, even in the UK and Canada - it was one of the things that differentiated conscientious objection there from conscientious objectors in Nazi Germany, who tended to get sent to concentration camps and/or shot. A lot of conscientious objectors who were granted exemption from the draft did alternative service instead such as working in factories or as farm workers or miners.
What was illegal, though, was (yes indeed) promoting the idea that the war was bad and therefore Hitler should be allowed to win.
I have no idea btw, I’m just repeating what I read somewhere, and tbh, the journalism on this is pretty bad. (small example, why do they keep calling grimes musks ex wife?). (His grandfather also is somehow suddenly the leader of the org, which is not something mentioned by the wikipedia article).
They prob were on the pro nazi camp then.
@Soyweiser (One of my dad’s schoolteachers was a conscientious objector - a Quaker who volunteered for the Friends Ambulance Unit and spent a lot more time in harm’s way than much of the actual military did)
Minor point of order: ZA, not SA (even though locally people think of it that way too)
(Source: am ZAian; SA is Saudi Barbaria)
Ah sorry. Edited.