this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2024
22 points (78.9% liked)

London

1037 readers
22 users here now

"who’d a thunk it"

For discussion about London including the surrounding Greater London area. Discuss all things from news, travel, culture, and general life around the capital and largest city of England!

Rules and other welcoming info can be found here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

So I finally got to ride one and wow they can really go. My favourite feature is probably the worst feature and that's that you can leave them anywhere. However what I didn't realise until actually riding one, is that the app asks you to take a picture of where and how you parked the bike when you're finished and then potentially punishes people who don't park the bikes properly. They can clearly enforce that more. But now I'm of the opinion that the local councils need to provide more bike parking. One or two parking spots at the end of every road would be enough. Being someone that lives in a hilly area, I don't really bother with bikes, but with the electric motors on the Lime bikes, I would ride everywhere and happily switch from Ubers if they were officially operating in my borough. Anyway, they're really really fun and I'm really looking forward to them redressing the balance of cars in London. For short journeys, they're perfect and the more people that access them, the fitter the city will be.

top 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] inspectorst@feddit.uk 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They can clearly enforce that more

Or, you know, at all...

I see far more Lime bikes sitting in the middle of the pavement than I do parked appropriately. Lime clearly has no incentive to punish bad parkers as all it does is lose them business for zero benefit.

The way to make the cost-benefit analysis work - and therefore to make Lime enforce against bad parkers - is for Lime to face a cost when their riders park badly. Local councils should just drive a van round and impound any Lime bikes thrown in the middle of the pavement and charge Lime £200 a pop to recover them - that would quickly get them to stop renting bikes out to hooligans.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 months ago

Judging by what the app told me, I suspect they only punish bad parkers if they get fined. So yeah, they should definitely enforce it more, because if it hits people in the pocket, they'll quickly fix their behaviour. Imagine if you can save 25% by just not being a prick.

[–] shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hammersmith and Fulham impounded some bikes, Lime's contractors broke in to retrieve them:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lime-bike-london-roads-hammersmith-fulham-electric-cycle-b1105622.html

Wandsworth impounded bikes too https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/news/2022-news/news-november-2022/lime-bikes-causing-obstructions-have-been-seized/

I think the legal problem is how to fine Lime when it's the end user who 'litters' the bike, and how to know whether the name on the payment method matches the end user. I'm sure if councils could legally seize and fine/destroy, they'd be doing it.

[–] rosamundi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I think the legal problem is how to fine Lime when it’s the end user who ‘litters’ the bike, and how to know whether the name on the payment method matches the end user. I’m sure if councils could legally seize and fine/destroy, they’d be doing it.

And I don't know if Lime have updated the security but it used to be quite easy to override the locking mechanism and ride without paying, you just had to live with the really loud clicking noise the bike made. So if it's been stolen and then dumped, Lime have no comeback against anyone.

[–] mods_mum@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Judging by how these are parked, at least in Greenwich, half of the people riding them are selfish, anti-social cunts.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're right. Greenwich doesn't officially have Lime bikes, so that doesn't help. But really Greenwich needs to sort out some parking bays and spread them right across the borough.

[–] mods_mum@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I see one of these bikes nonchalantly dumped in the middle of the pavement when there's plenty of safe space to park it so it doesn't obstruct anything, something tells me having parking bays would change nothing.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 months ago

Ultimately they need to fine people who park them poorly and actually add a method to report poorly parked bikes.

[–] shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 months ago

I don't understand why Greenwich likes to drag their heels. With all the parks and commons in the borough, they should've been at the forefront of getting this rubber stamped.

[–] cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're great! Best way to get around London imo. I cycle a lot but being able to leave it at your destination without needing locks etc is great. My only issue is the price - it's often more expensive than a cab for the equivalent journey (especially if there are two of you). Hopefully it gets cheaper, and they work with councils to sort out parking and avoid them being dumped on the street.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the price can come down that would be amazing. The idea of charging you so much to use your own body is crazy.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if they've fixed it this year, but going by the number of Limes that go past going "click-click-click-click", I don't think that many people are paying for them.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, that's a thing? People are using them without paying?

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Apparently it's not difficult to overcome the lock when you're stationary. And once you're moving, it doesn't re-engage.