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max amount of load on a front, frame-mounted bike rack (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by evasync@lemmy.world to c/askphysics@lemmy.world

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Im in the process on building something similar with the rack you see in the picture.

What I want to know is if its possible to determine the optimal length of the tube on the frame and on the rack to allow the max load under stress without the rack breaking/bending on a spot that its not mounted on the frame, and what would be the max load?

and if it is, how to calculate it? :)

things that i know:

number of tubes
length
diameter
thickness
bending tube angle
stainless steel type

worth saying that this is more of a learning exercise.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

More of an engineering problem -- see the subfield of engineering called "statics". Physics has equations for everything here, but the specific combinations of materials and geometry and so forth is solidly engineering.

Then, the route to go would be physical testing. As long as the load is not balanced in front of the front axel, the bike should be drivable. If it's balanced in front of that axel, then you will have a real limit eventually where the back tire is no longer able to make contact with the ground. The load would have to exceed your body weight somewhat.

If you exceed that load, you're probably fine on smooth ground. The welds in the frame are likely first to go. During an impact (bump in the road), engineering statics no longer applies, and you end up in dynamics. So you could load it up and it'll be fine sitting in one spot, and then start pedaling and hit a bump and a joint crumbles or something.

Finally, the bike probably has a rated maximum rider weight listed by the manufacturer. If you just want to play it safe, find that number, subtract your weight, and go nuts.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

A quick rule of thumb for a cantilever beam is to have 2/3 of it supported. In other words, the length of the tube on the frame should be double the length of the tube on the rack. That's not a rigorous calculation, though. (And it's for just getting on with building the thing, rather than being a learning exercise. FWIW, I'm an engineer but I wouldn't bother doing any calculations for this kind of project. It's only worth it if you're planning to mass-produce it and want to optimize costs.)

As for going through with the learning exercise, these might help get you started:

https://www.egr.msu.edu/~harichan/classes/ce405/chap2.pdf

https://user.engineering.uiowa.edu/~design1/StructuralDesignII/BeamDesign.pdf

https://engineering.purdue.edu/~ce474/Docs/DA6-BeamFormulas.pdf

By the way, thanks for posting because that's a neat rack and now I want one, too.