I am angry
A place for angry people to come and be angry about things without discrimination.
Also, a place for non-angry people to come and read and comment on angry people's posts. Don't be dismissive to ragers because I am notoriously generous with the banhammer.
Note: I say Angry People, not bigoted people. Being angry at people for how they are born will get you blocked with an astounding quickness.
Lastly: NO MEMES! USE YOUR WORDS! (Some exemptions may apply)
This is what I like about lemmy. On Reddit you'd never see the crazy old man yelling at the clouds. Here he gets his own website, he gets to go on a power trip, he gets to rant, and we get to watch!
What makes you angry specifically? Trying to figure out where your beef is. I am happy to discuss.
And I wonder why people with autism (myself included) have such a bad reputation on the internet...
Excuse me, I mostly watch spike haired edgelady streamers.
Do you take your opinions on theism from their poorly organized for-views rants without even considering them objectively first?
Oh, I don't really care about theism tbh, I just don't believe in it. I know some people find a lot of meaning, hope, and community in their beliefs and I have no interest in arguing that's wrong.
It's the conservative part I take umbrage with.
It’s the conservative part I take umbrage with.
Agreed.
One thing you have to admit: a sense of community is missing in our world, a lot of people feel adrift and alone. Churches are places where people who share ideals can be together and those kinds of communities provide so many small, unnoticed services.
Just that the easiest way to form a community is around a religion, and with the majority of the world being secular, the only things we can form a similar group around is media, and I don't see anime circles and record collecting groups having quite the outreach.
What is being mocked and what is not understood exactly?
Everything is mocked, nothing is sacred in our society anymore. That's 30% of the reason I am SO INCANDESCENTLY ANGRY about this.
Saying a religion is sacred presupposed that the religion is true. So your claim that its wrong to mock a religion because its sacred is circular logic.
No religion is true, therefore cannot be sacred, and therefore is not above mockery.
That's not a true assumption at all and is further proof of your kind's deliberate intellectual dishonesty.
If you had actually read the thread you'd see in at least 2 places that I am NOT arguing for the existence of a deity, in fact I point out the studies that show that theists report higher quality of life and outcomes than non-theists, and since I assume you believe no deity exists, and the results are peer-reviewed and in some cases multiply attested, you have to accept the results that regardless of the actual existence or not of the supernatural, living AS IF it existed brings better outcomes.
and therefore is not above mockery.
Oh you hold things dear that are above mockery and if I were able to sit with you and talk for ten minutes I GUARANTEE I could find at least 2 subjects you feel would be above mockery.
The thing is, by making everything mockable, you run into bullshit asymmetry and all the good gets lost in a rising sea of trollish discourse.
Great example is the ACA, in its original form it would have been the single best gift to American citizens, but the Republicunts mocked it for years and years until their constituents don't realize that the ACA and 'Obamacare' are THE SAME THING, because it is a LOT easier to spew constant lies and mockery than it is to refute it.
The REASON certain things were held sacred and above reproach was usually because of how critical they were to society, for example the sanctity of human life, or of motherhood, or of charity.
So now that 'nothing is sacred', human life can end over a pair of shoes and no one cares, antinatal movements are in full swing, and the only time people talk about charity anymore is to say how celebrities use it to dodge taxes.
The simple fact is the world would be a lot better if we stopped mocking certain things, and we WOULDN'T be here where we are now if all of you and your ilk weren't hellbent on uprooting three thousand years of human social development because you are angry your mommy wouldn't let you bring your 3ds to church on Christmas.
I really, really don't like it when you say things like "you and your ilk". You are embodying everything you say you're against.
And that last paragraph. Holy shit!
Ban me, hypocrite.
I know and it feels fucking great to be on this side of it for once in my life after so many hundreds of you harassing me for daring to be passionate about something that has so massively improved my life.
Oh my fucking GLOB you have no idea how magnificently, fucktastically tired I am of all of your half baked meme responses and smug superiority despite the fact that you are JUST as ignorant about theology as the people you mock and when confronted with that fact you and YOUR ILK actively use the same goalpost shifting and intellectually dishonest tactics you accuse cuntservatives of doing.
EVERY
TIME
There has never once been a post where I have engaged with an atheist, no matter how rigorous or referenced my posts, no matter how genial and respectful, that isn't downvoted completely to oblivion, and I've been trying this for FUCKING DAMN NEAR TWENTY YEARS!
I have a bad opinion of you and your ilk because 99.9% of atheists I run into DO THE EXACT SAME INFURIATINGLY BULLETPROOF DANCE.
And you STILL claim the moral high ground afterward.
So yeah, every atheist can turn to dust and make the world a better place.
And I wouldn't think that if even a handful of you hadn't, but in my entire time doing this I've had exactly 3 atheists respond reasonably. In two decades... Those posts were still comment bombed or downvoted to oblivion though, and so were the reasonable atheist replies. Looks like you rabid sycophants can't even stand dissent from your own kind. How pathetic.
Ban me, hypocrite.
Make me...
Blocked. Fuck off, you basement dwelling asshat. You are the worst person I've met on Lemmy, and I've met tankies. You are definitely going to hell. If there is a god, he hates you.
There are literal fashy shock troops on Lemmy right now and you call me the worst person you met?
You must not engage much.
Edit: Sorry, hell isn't for the saved. I know you don't care, just want to set the record straight when people start coming into the thread with dispensationalist bullshit.
If there is a god, have you asked him why he cursed you so much? To suffer these perceived personal attacks from nothing?
To have uncontrollable rage?
To feel no one understands you?
To have such a unique, individual take on the entire world that not a single other soul can even slightly comprehend and engage with your incoherent rambling?
Do you feel you have a personal relationship with your god? Does he talk to you directly?
I'm sorry I can't pray away your media illiteracy, you really might want to read the posts in this thread a bit more before making yourself look even more foolish.
You don't understand my position on the existence or lack thereof of God, neither do you understand what a god talking would even be like if such a being does exist.
If we are to believe the Biblical accounts, actually taking to God bleaches your hair white and causes your eyes to shine like lamps, and neither of those things have happened to me.
I read the Bible, I learn the lessons there, I apply them to my own life. I have never had a flaming tablet fall out of the sky with the words 'I EXIST' etched on it, I have never heard an audible voice I have attributed to God.
And as for my 'relationship', if it exists at all then it is mostly me being angry at Him for making the world to be such an arduous test. I'm pretty sure I've spent more time seething at Him than praising Him.
Most of the time I wonder if Gnosticism is true, and the 'god' of the material universe is just a flawed demiurge reflection of a greater perfect God beyond all understanding. Honestly I feel there is more evidence for the demiurge as at least the current ruler of the world (which has some Biblical backing as the adversary was given dominion over the world til Judgment, he is literally called the Prince of the Air).
Have you been tested for schizophrenia?
Yes and unfortunately I am without voices in my head which I already mentioned to you but I guess you were too busy thinking of your clever little ableism jab to read the section where I wrote:
I have never had a flaming tablet fall out of the sky with the words ‘I EXIST’ etched on it, I have never heard an audible voice I have attributed to God.
Frankly I'd LOVE to be schizophrenic because at least then I would know that my grim world was a product of madness and not a sick and dying culture.
And there are plenty of effective schizophrenia medications whereas even after decades and dozens of different medications, literally nothing works for more than 2 or 3 weeks on my IED.
The only way someone is schizophrenic is if a flaming tablet fell out of the sky? The only way someone is schizophrenic is if they hear god, specifically?
Do you perhaps think that, maybe, other indications or symptoms of schizophrenia exist other than those very two specific things you pointed out?
See what I said about media literacy? At this point it is so blatant as to be deliberate.
Fuck every direction of off and then fund a study group to research novel and unique directions in which to fuck off, and then do them all at once.
At least most of you edgelad ratheists aren’t trying to bring fascism to American.
You can't "bring" fascism to the US - this call has been coming from inside the house before the ink on the constitution had dried.
according to the bible, your faith has to be based on faith alone, rather than evidence. which means, there is no evidence. if there were evidence, your faith would be based on evidence instead of faith.
so what causes you to believe in god?
So, of all we have it's strawman arguments, why don't you educate us and explain why we should believe in your god.
I don't think you should believe in my God, I think you should find your own god and use your dedication to it to improve your life.
Hell I'm not even arguing whether any god exists or not, it's largely a pointless argument to be honest. I live as if the God of the Hebrew Bible exists, and it has improved my life and made me a more compassionate and open minded person. I know you don't believe that, because to you religion is the root of all evil, which is why I don't really like talking to your ilk.
I think you SHOULD believe in SOMETHING sacred, because such things are powerful. For example, I would like for the world to start believing that human life is sacred again, and that has inspired me to donate to charities that preserve human life like Doctors without Borders. I feel that taking any human life outside of immediate safety should be considered one of the most horrific acts a human can perform. When I think about how unfair it is for those who's lives are ruined or ended by the greed, ignorance, or anger of another, I strengthen the resolve within me to become more accepting of life imprisonment over execution of criminals. It causes me to want to support causes that prevent it, and to think of ways to convince others to agree and put aside their previously held beliefs about the acceptability of human death for those in the 'out group'.
There's no pathway to convince this world of fucking idiots through rational arguments or statistical evidence that such things should be true, and 40% of humanity absolutely needs the unassailable authority of a god lawgiver to keep them from doing ridiculously stupid things out of ignorance or maliciousness.
I'm sure you've mocked the whole 'Without God stopping you, why don't you rape?' meme just like every other atheist online but if the last 8 years of mass murders, encroaching fascism, and rising social anxiety hasn't convinced you that YES there ARE some people who need a god to tell them not to rape, then I don't know what to say.
You have a very strange idea of what an atheist is. An atheist is simply someone who doesn't believe in gods. That's the long and short of it.
...but if the last 8 years of mass murders, encroaching fascism, and rising social anxiety hasn't convinced you that YES there ARE some people who need a god to tell them not to rape, then I don't know what to say.
If you look at the kind of behaviour that is being justified with religion, then your good isn't very good at that, is he?
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Ha, see there! Where is your power now?
Right here in this little three dot menu I got when I made the sub!
Ahhhh that feels nice