• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    If the car is now expected to do the braking for me, does that mean I can floor it everywhere, knowing the car is supposed to brake automatically when detecting collisions etc. If it fails, who is liable? Driver, or faulty software?

    “The car has AEB and it failed to detect the person in the road. The car and braking system failed so I am entirely not liable. Go sue ford instead”

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      Cars have had automatic braking systems like this for ages. The driver is always going to be the one responsible (short of some actual fault in the car)

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        Have had them for ages

        Ive seen Volvo lorries with that, nothing else.

        What cars are you seeing that have what the article is discussing, already implemented?

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          I don’t know if they meet all the requirements of this law, but I’ve seen Subarus, BMWs, and a Porsche that all had some form of automatic braking.

          I think the Porsche was the oldest, around 2015-2016. It could keep even keep pace with the car in front of you

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            Current implementation clearly doesn’t meet the defined regulatory changes in the main article.

            Not sure it’s really relevant

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              4 months ago

              Precedent set by older, and very similar, technology seems pretty relevant if we’re talking about liability

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                I think we are talking on similar, but not the same, situation.

                In your case, absolutely you cannot rely on the car 100% to brake and its your liability.

                But when cars are mandated to have some very specific technology, which will require the driver to get used to etc.

                What if that technology fails? IE like Tesla autopilot at the moment. The more vehicles are regulated to have “self control” on braking etc even up to self driving, at what point does liability shift from the driver to the manufacturer?

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                  At no point would or should the liability shift. Even in the case of autopilot. The driver still remains in complete control of the vehicle and it is their responsibility to not crash it. These automatic braking systems kick in at the last possible second. Things are already pretty bad if they are doing their job

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          It’s been in my last 3 cars and they weren’t luxury vehicles. They were low 20k Honda, Toyota, and Nissan.

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          Most manufacturers have these types of systems but none are up to the new standard. They’re often called forward collision warning/avoidance systems.