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[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These two having any kind of conversation would be fucking hilarious. Absolute opposite ends of the spectrum of narcisstic assholes, they would both go insane trying to out alpha each other while being completely unable to communicate in any way that made sense to each other.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Narcissistic" is an ancient Greek slur for asexuals. Hellenic Greece was a hypersexual society, and they didn't understand asexuality. They thought the only reason to not have sex was thinking you're better than others. So they created the slur narcissistic to insult people who wouldn't date or fuck anyone, based on the asexual character Narcissus.

[–] theredknight@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While what you say might have grains of truth in it, it's likely that the story was originally a warning about eating a poisonous plant that resembles an onion more than an attack on asexuals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(plant)

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they chose to warn people about a dangerous flower by making the dangerous character in the story an eeeeevil asexual who was so arrogant he wouldn't fuck anyone and was killed by the gods for not going on dates.

[–] theredknight@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The story doesn't define him as asexual. It does say he scorned and mocked people who then cursed him:

‘So may he himself love, and so may he fail to command what he loves!’

https://ovid.lib.virginia.edu/trans/Metamorph3.htm#476975711

Also according to this article at Cornell, Ovid was the sole poet of the story and there aren't any earlier versions, so it is likely both of our interpretations are askew.

https://www.cornellcollege.edu/classical_studies/CLA216-2-A/narcissus-echo/

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The story doesn't define him as asexual.

That's because ancient Greeks didn't know what an asexual was! If an ancient Greek tells you about a magic rock that attracts metal objects, that's a magnet. If an ancient Greek tells you that he drank water from the well right next to the toilet and now his poop is bloody, that's dysentery. If an ancient Greek tells you he doesn't love anyone, that's an aromantic or an asexual. We have more advanced science these days, and more advanced words for scientific phenomena.

So may he himself love

This prayer doesn't make any sense if Narcissus already had the ability to love. The mortal who said this prayer, and the god who answered it, both observed that Narcissus has never loved anyone. Cause he's aro.

And he was rude to people because they didn't respect his consent. One of the suitors he rejected literally prayed to the gods to kill him. The boy was surrounded by violent incels, of course he was abrasive.

[–] theredknight@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Ovid was a Roman not a Greek.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I saw a post about how Trump was going to ban electric cars earlier today, and now this. I wonder how Elon would advise him on that.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Uh, here money, no ban. But hard to do from prison.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

People who make everything they're involved with worse gotta stick together.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not exactly sure why Nog is appropriate here, but he is.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

I think it's the deeply furrowed brow we all share rn.