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[–] Worthstream@lemmy.one 107 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Sometimes you have to go with the flow. There is now a cabbage and this was the correct solution for the puzzle. Keep the session enjoyable for everyone, the "real solution" doesn't count all that much.

Story time!

A while back, I ran an investigation-based campaign over multiple sessions. Between long breaks in play and general chaos driven by the players, they somehow ended up accusing the one NPC who was actually trying to help them. We ended that session there.

In the downtime, I thought about what happened and had an idea... mostly as a joke - what if I reworked the story so that NPC was actually the real villain? I tried writing it, and it turned out the story could mostly work. A few small details didn't line up perfectly, but the players had forgotten them or wouldn't have made the wrong accusation in the first place. I decided to go with this revised version.

The next session became an epic finale where all the players felt really clever for deducing the plot twist. It was one of the best sessions of the whole campaign because they were playing at their best, feeling empowered. I think forcing them into a session where they had to try and "fix" their mistake while in a bad mood over having been so confidently wrong wouldn't have been nearly as fun overall.

[–] solivine@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 months ago

That's an awesome take on it

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 5 months ago

Damn, you sound like a legendary DM!

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I've heard stories about players finding clues that the DM never intended to leave. Either stuff that wasn't supposed to be important or plot holes. I think it might be good to have a rule that if the players find a certain amount of evidence, then regardless of the intended answer, they're right. Honestly, I think it might be fun to not have an intended solution, and just keep making up details until they find enough plot holes.

[–] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

The point isn't there being a 'real' solution. The point is that there wasn't really a problem to begin with. This is more like when your party assumes a door is trapped and takes an hour to decide how to approach it, but the door was really just a rotted normal door ready to fall off its hinges.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 38 points 5 months ago

"Where we're going Goat, we don't need boats - but we do need that cabbage"

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's always a cabbage. Most times it is cursed.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Isn't all cabbage a little cursed? But also kind of blessed.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago

The CDC says you can have a little cursed cabbage, as a treat.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cabbage is delicious if cooked right (pan fried or fermented, never boiled)

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

Fried in butter and with salt and pepper. Yum.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 5 months ago

The real treasure is the cabbages we make along the way.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Player: "Are you sure that you are a real leprechaun?"

Chad Jibbity: "What, are you implying that I am merely a magically animated automaton stringing words together according to a complicated set of rules? Certainly not, I am a very real riddle leprechaun!"

takes a hearty bite out of a juicy tennis sock

Player: ಠ_ಠ

[–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

Chad Jibbity is so good

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 9 points 5 months ago

You forgot the part where they kill the goat and the cabbage. And then the boat too.

[–] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

You need to prompt your party to roleplay as non-idiots and think through their solution step-by-step. Of course, it's possible your party is also running an outdated model.

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

The AI can give a variety of answers.

  1. First, take the goat across to the opposite shore.
  2. Then go back to the original shore to get the boat.
  3. Finally, take the boat across to the opposite shore.

This ensures that the goat is never left alone such that it could wonder off.

I got something like that.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] zarathustrad@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I cast magic missiles at the goat and use its corpse to float the cabbages across!